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P52 WWAN option

2018-07-29, 11:04 AM

Lenovo promotes to add the WWAN option.

..."For true mobility, add the option of WWAN connectivity."

 

Did anybody out there manage to order a P52 with this additional option?

 

Probably one might opt for

Integrated Mobile Broadband 4G LTE-A,

or
Intel XMM™ 7360 (Fibocom L850-GL)

 

The WWAN option does exist in the P52s (s) configuration.

 

However, when selecting the P52 configuration, I am either missing or overlooking something?

 

Thanks.

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Re: P52 WWAN option

2018-07-31, 6:12 AM

The WWAN option is not yet available for the P52. It will probably be enabled at a later time. Probably there are supply issues or something that prevents you from ordering with a WWAN option. So it is not something you overlooked, it is just not offered at all.

 

I tried to find some info if I could add the LTE modem later if I order now. I am not 100% sure, but it looks like that if you order now, you WILL NOT BE ABLE to add a LTE modem later on, because the antennas are not connected. I am not sure of this, however, and someone with a P52 will need to confirm this. Mine will only arrive in the second half of August.

 

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Re: P52 WWAN option

2018-07-31, 9:41 AM

Thank you very much indeed. Guess I need to wait a little longer then, until it is available.
Please allow me to ask you one further question: if I am correct you say that you have ordered a P52(?)

whilst in the signature you state you are a X1 Yoga owner.

 

Out of curiosity - what made you decide to purchase a P52 ?

Over, the highly praised (but regretfully not -yet- available in 15.6") X1 Carbon or P52S?

 

Thank you again.

 

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Re: P52 WWAN option

2018-07-31, 10:07 AM

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Thank you very much indeed. Guess I need to wait a little longer then, until it is available.
Please allow me to ask you one further question: if I am correct you say that you have ordered a P52(?)

whilst in the signature you state you are a X1 Yoga owner.

 

Out of curiosity - what made you decide to purchase a P52 ?

Over, the highly praised (but regretfully not -yet- available in 15.6") X1 Carbon or P52S?


Oh you ask a very interesting question indeed :) I will blogging about the P52 and review it when I get it, and I already wrote some background information that would answer your question, but it is not yet published. I can try to give a short summary here.

 

My signature says X1 Yoga because I still use that for work, as my P52 will be shipping in about 1-2 weeks. It is the waiting game for me.

 

Reason 1: RAM.

I need more memory than what was currently available in the ultrabooks. My P52 will be coming with 64GB. The X1 Yoga has 16GB, and that is very little for my use case of software development.

 

Reason 2: Performance

In fact, we measured all sorts of machines and configurations with our development workload, and found that the ultrabooks / U series CPU machines are just too slow compared to workstations (P series). It is not just a question of CPU or SSD or RAM, but rather the whole package. We measured compilation times, tooling operation times, etc. Previously we had taken the stance that it is ok to get an X1 for development, but we now shifting to the P series for development. 

 

I want to stress that this is FOR OUR USE CASE, because the X1 Yoga is a fine machine and I like it very much! In fact I do recommend it to many people still. And of course you can develop all kinds of things with it. In fact, some people at our company use the X1 Yoga 3rd gen for development, but they do different kind of work than me / my group.

 

So these are the main reasons I am going for a machine with H series CPU. 

 

The X1 Carbon and the P52S has U series CPUs, which are a no go at this point for us. The 15.6" X1 Carbon you are referring to might get H series 6 cores, but it will be thinner than the P52. And unfortunately notebook manufacturers can't change physics: thinner design means more thermal throttling and by that less performance. How this would manifest in the 15.6" X1 Carbon we of course don't know yet. Then there is the rumored P1 as well, but that might be thinner as well, so basically same story as the 15.6" X1 Carbon with the thermals.

 

I have been waiting for the P52 since January. I hoped it will get announced in the March-April timeframe, but that did not happen. And I just cannot wait any longer to find out if in fact the 15.6" X1 Carbon or the P1 would be ok as well. I need a new machine now that the summer holidays are over and big projects are starting for us :)

 

Oh, and I wanted the P3200 - I hope to use the P52 for some gaming :)

(My P52 will be: i7-8850H, P3200, 64GB RAM, 2x1TB SSD, FHD)

 

Lenard | (I am a Lenovo INsider - a volunteer and not a Lenovo employee) | @lenardg
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Re: P52 WWAN option

2018-07-31, 11:02 AM

Just a short reply

I have to go out now, I'll read it later or tomorrow and get back to you.

Truly appreciate your taking so much time for this elaborate reply. Super.

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2018-07-31, 11:08 AM

Please feel free to interrogate me :) I am planning to blog about this very subject and publish a review of the P52 on my blog as well. 

 

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2018-08-01, 5:06 AM

Up front: I am new to the laptop-world and have not decided yet. Have spent many (I mean.. many) hours on comparing, reading reviews, and so on, so as to try and find the 'best' laptop for me. I don't care about weight or thickness. Seems these matters have a higher priority than, for instance, built-quality. As for me, I don't need a battery draining 4K screen. No doubt it is super, but read more (solid) cons than pros. Not sure one may see the difference between 4K and HD on a screen this size.

What I do want is a 15.6" a decent videocard, allowing me to  run Photoshop, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD and a model that has been released recently/will be released within short, so I won't start with an 'older' model that becomes 'outdated' within a year or so.

I don't play games, I mean not those requiring a high performance CPU and GPU.

 

After comparing a few brands I ended up with Lenovo.

I think most of the Lenovo laptops are <15.6", but I think I will be more comfortable with 15.6". The laptop won't be carried around often.

 

The reason why I asked you about your P52 decision is that I am still a bit hesitating. The laptop is super, no doubt about that.

But there is also a T580 USD.1569 (20L9CTO1WWENUS2), or in fact the P52S. It is not really a budget matter, it is rather 'Do I want to pay a significantly higher price' for the power I will hardly use.

 

In your case, you do want the maximum and I appreciate that. P52 is -the- one you need, period.

 

As for me, frankly, I hesitate....

(Background of my question)

 

Hopefull your P52 will come soon and I will be reading your review on that.

 

Think you are not the only one desperately waiting for it.

 

Thanks!

 

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Re: P52 WWAN option

2018-08-01, 6:15 AM

Well this goes a little off topic now :)

 

But based on what you write, the T580 or P52s would seem like good fits for your use case. If you consider the P52, you can probably get away with the i7-8750 with a P1000, so basically the entry level option for the P52.

 

Whichever you end up with, if you are doing Photoshop, I would recommend you look at the display options. And in that department the P52 seems to be the best, because its 4K screen has 100% gamut while the 4K display on the T580 and P52s only offers 72% gamut. If you are working with Photoshop, think about which one you need. 

 

The T580 and P52s have FHD screens that I would not recommend for Photoshop. The P52 FHD option still offers 72% gamut.

 

While you are right that side by side you might not notice the difference under normal circuimstances, the 4K screen would have sharper text.

 

So my recommendation would be to look at:

 

P52s with 4K (UHD) option

or

P52 with FHD or 4K option

 

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Re: P52 WWAN option

2018-08-01, 9:11 AM

I know.. it is a bit off-topic :-)

 

Will seriously consider what you are writing.

 

Meanwhile I noticed that a FHD 15.6 touchscreen is also available.

 

Anyway, thanks again!

 

 

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