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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-06-12, 16:07 PM

After my $3400 P51 blue screen dumpster fire, I'll be giving another manufacturer a spin this time round: HP. I am worried about the cooling in all of these machines, though. If you have an eye on the gaming laptops carrying these new hexacore CPUs, even with as many as five heat-pipes and four fans (Aorus X9 DT), they all have had problems keeping cool. If I had to guess, based on the cooling problems Lenovo had for the P51 and P71, Lenovo is probably trying to get it right this time around.

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-06-12, 20:09 PM

The hexacore CPUs are the same 45W package as quadcores of the previous generations.

 

GPUs are the main power hogs, and while mid-range P3200-P4200 are within 100W,  top of the range P5200 ~ GTX 1080 is 150W+.

 

Still, most users don't buy the most powerful GPU offered, so cooling shouldn't be more of a problem than it ever was.

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-06-12, 20:40 PM

Uh, if you look at the temperatures upon testing of all of the current 8th gen 6 core laptop CPU implementations, they all run very hot - approaching 90 - 99 degrees C at load. Most of the 1070 and 1080 GPUs average in between 70 and 80 degrees C at load. Folks are only getting the CPU temperatures down by using liquid metal thermal soutions (which I am leery about using), and by undervolting the CPU. High clock speeds account for most of the high temperatures, especially in the unlocked i9 CPU. Dell has this CPU option available for the new 7730. 

 

I hope you are right about the temperatures not being a foreseeable problem, but after having to return two P51 units for thermal throttling, I have my doubts.

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-06-13, 19:01 PM

It's probably too late to make requests, but I come with a more moderate and evolutionary approach... building upon the P71's weaknesses, closing the gaps and making it more refined.

-Improved cooling, thoroughly tested and tweaked to be able to handle the GPU and CPU when used on heavy workloads.

 

-Streamlined options/support for external GPU's (would love to see this in the whole lineup, I know that USB C 3.1 products are slowly showing up, but would be nice to have some officially supported and reasonably priced options).

 

-Better speakers, I know this is asking a lot, but I can't help but think about how amazing iPhone speakers have become, and ponder why laptops(yes, even a workstation) can't rival in this area.

-HDMI 2.0(this is not a big deal though, DP with an adapter covers this so I'm ok with it for now... though later on I do expect it to be the norm as it's replacing 1.4)

Other than the obvious and expected updated internals (Intel i7 8th generation CPU's and latest and greatest generation Nvidia GPU's), I can't really ask for anything more too drastic.  I have a T500 that I still use, sure the plastic parts have thin fractures/cracks/chipped edges, and the hinges aren't holding up... so I would've hoped for some improvements on those area, but then again, I can't complain that a 8 year old laptop is still working... I also understand the tradeoffs of having an exterior that is fully magnesium allow verses a structural chassis with "skin" wrapped over it.. so I can't complain too much.  It's why I still look at Thinkpads for my future purchases.

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-07-17, 1:33 AM

This is the only thing giving me solace that the P72 hasn’t been released yet. I could get a P71 with the P4000 or P5000 right now, but I’m trying as hard as possible to be patient!

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-07-17, 14:27 PM

I would like to see a centered keyboard/trackpad as an available configuration on either a 15" or 17" workstation.

 

If the designers can't handle an asymmetrical layout, then put a second number pad on the left.  Not only is that useful for lefties, but they could functiom as extended, programmable, Function keys that could be useful for saved macros or clipboard contents.  I could even get used to the regular F-keys to be on the left, like in the olden days.

 

I would also like to see Wacom technology available, as it has been (IIRC) on the p51.

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-08-14, 3:09 AM

At last...

 

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/ThinkPad-P72/p/22WS2WPWP72

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-08-14, 13:35 PM

But it appears that there is no Express Card slot!

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-08-14, 17:02 PM

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But it appears that there is no Express Card slot!


What people use that for nowadays?

 

Seems that Lenovo took the space of the second 2.5" bay + express card slot, and used it to shave 5mm from the laptop thickness

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Re: P72 and features requests

2018-08-27, 1:37 AM

VERY useful if you want to add 2 more USB 3.0 ports for low power USB devices such as mice and thumbdrives. a few expresscard adapters i know get the job done.

W510: i7-720QM, 16GB, DDR3 PC10600 - 1033MHz Kingston Value RAM, 1GB Quadro FX880M, 2TB Seagate SSHD (Internal) + 2TB Seagate Firecuda SSHD (external via eSATA)

T410: i5-520M, 8GB, DDR3 PC8500 - 1066Mhz Kingston Value RAM, 512MB Geforce, 1TB Seagate SSHD (Internal) + 1TB Seagate SSHD (external via eSATA)
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