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Potential problems for ex MacBook user

2019-04-04, 15:09 PM

Hi all,
I'm going to get rid of my apple laptop and get myself fully upgraded P1 or X1 Extreame for development work (java,kotlin lot of compilation cpu heavy stuff, sometimes editing some videos)...

I've been reading about these models and it seems they have issues if you get rid of windows and straight up install ubuntu as your main os... 

So i was considering to run ubuntu in hyper v (so i'll get windows pro)...
I need ubuntu since ally projects run on ubuntu servers and its a nice feature to be able to run my modules natively in my local workspace just like on server side...


Even with hyper v i did find some problems people experienced with these models, it seems they complain about extreamly bad network performance when running hyper v also they mention termal throttleing...

Neadless to say if all of this is correct i'll rather stick to mbp.

Did anyone already do any of the things i mentioned and what was your experience?
Is it worth for me to do the switch?

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Re: Potential problems for ex MacBook user

2019-04-17, 4:54 AM

I have been using vm's on the thinkpad's for a while . ( VMware workstation ) 

Hyper V sucks for linux in general . i tried it only once . 

Hyper V that ships with Win 10 Pro is also not worth your time . 

I have had much sucess running ubuntu budgie and elementary on newer thinkpads as VM's 

Also remember hyper V is a type-1 hypervisor visor +bleeding edge hardware and linux don't do so well .( unless its ESXI ) 

Now i have tried all linux distros but typically run some ubuntu based distro because of vpn client compatibility . 

So Arch , Debian etc also run very well and smoothly and nicely . 

I have had no problems at all , even doin resource intensive tasks . 

Besides you need windows to deal with bios updates etc . it's a pain in linux . 

Dual boot in the newer laptops even could brick your laptop . 

So VMware workstation or player is your best bet . 

 

NOTE : This is my personal opinion from experience . 

 

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Re: Potential problems for ex MacBook user

2019-04-17, 11:19 AM
Why not just install Ubuntu on bare metal (alongside Windows 10 if you wish) ? Linux runs very well on Thinkpad. I run openSUSE on my P72 as my daily driver for development (Android apps). Linux single-core performance is better on Linux than Windows (5800 vs 5200 Geekbench score). Filesystem I/O performance is also better.
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Re: Potential problems for ex MacBook user

2019-04-17, 11:35 AM
Well these are not critical reasons for keeping windows around ( i hate microsoft), but 1. i need normal software for some basic video editing ( i used final cut pro before) i assume my new stack would be adobe products 2. since i'm spending 3k on a laptop with good gpu would be nice to play some steam games that i had but couldnt use on mac platform I'm pretty sure if i have to bother with bios updates manually and all that bull**bleep** then i'll rather stay in **bleep**ty mac ecosystem, at least it just works... Also lot of places people say installing pure linux has potential problems and possibility of bricking your device...
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Re: Potential problems for ex MacBook user

2019-04-17, 12:45 PM

You have good reasons to stay on Windows but these days Thinkpad firmwares can be easily updated on Linux via fwupd. It's dead simple. With the early BIOSes there were some possible bricking problems (now fixed since a while), but it had to to with changing specific BIOS settings, not hing to do with Linux.

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