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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2011-12-19, 8:33 AM

Have any of you seen a Lenovo RapidBoot machine in person?  See http://rapidboot.com and the Disclaimer link at the bottom of the screen.  I would really like that tricked out BIOS.

 

On a different note, how long does it take from the time you hit the power button to the time the Lenovo BIOS logo disappears?

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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2011-12-19, 15:57 PM
Sadly, my boots have gone back up to the 40 second area. Haven't been defragging every night due to exams.

It takes 8-10 seconds to clear the POST stage for me. I'm still on Legacy/MBR though.

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
X200s: SL9400, 6GB RAM, 64GB SD card, WXGA+ screen
TPT1: 1839-23U
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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2011-12-19, 16:58 PM

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Sadly, my boots have gone back up to the 40 second area. Haven't been defragging every night due to exams.

It takes 8-10 seconds to clear the POST stage for me. I'm still on Legacy/MBR though.

Yea, that's my experience as well.  It is at least 10 seconds before Windows even starts loading.

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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2011-12-19, 17:13 PM

PanEuropean wrote: I timed my machine today - much to my surprise, 28 seconds exactly from a cold start.  I started timing when I swiped my finger, and stopped timing when the usable desktop appeared.

 

W520, Windows 7 Pro, UEFI BIOS, GPT discs, an 80 gig Intel mSATA card for the OS and applications, and the standard Seagate mechanical drive for the documents.

 

The OS installation is totally standard (I would not know how to tweak it), with all the drivers supplied by Lenovo System Update. 


Ahhh. So is UEFI the "secret sauce"? 

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/572616-t420-msata-uefi-only-20-sec-boot.html

 

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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2011-12-19, 17:51 PM

I'm surprised it takes 28 seconds on an SSD, even an mSATA one at that.

My primary issue is all the services loading simultaneously, choking my Scorpio Black.

Luckily for me, eBoostr apparently loads very early in the boot process, and WPT shows it hitting the SD card a fair bit in what should be the "Starting Windows" stage. Mind you, the SD card rates 14MB/s at random 4K; too bad we don't get integrated CF card readers. (EDIT: Linked picture, bootDoneViaExplorer was 18492 ms.)

There's one rather involved trick I saw on the 2008R2 workstation forum where one uses a shutdown script and a startup script. The shutdown script sets almost all usually Automatic services to Disabled, so at next boot Windows doesn't try to load them at all. The startup (I think logon and post-logon) script then reverts their status to manual and starts them in a staggered fashion.

Haven't tried it, but I think that may interfere with RapidBoot.


W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2012-01-09, 19:49 PM

wrote:

On a different note, how long does it take from the time you hit the power button to the time the Lenovo BIOS logo disappears?



On mine it takes about 2s. I have a T420s with i5-2540 with 8Gb RAM.

Why? are you getting significantly longer times?

I have normal BIOS (non UEFI) as i have hard disk encryption.

 

eos, I only have an SSD in my laptop no platter hard disk. its worked fine since i got it 3 months ago. I've been playing with it, but only because i wanted to, not because it wasn't working well. It works great. Everything loads like lightning. Even the 90Mb excel files i've been working with recently load in a few seconds.

 

I've been playing around with rapdboot, and for my machine it made no real difference to the boot times. Both with and without rapidboot was around 36 - 40s to the desktop (as timed in the event viewer, after booting at least 5 times). What has made a difference is leaving superfetch/prefetch on for booting only. With prerfetch off, boot times were never below 50s. So now i ignore the Intel SSD toolbox that says i should turn it off. I've also noticed my boot times can vary by up to 10s, with the same configuration.

 

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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2012-01-09, 21:46 PM
36 seconds on an SSD sounds fairly poor, to be honest. You may want to see what's going on there.

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
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TPT1: 1839-23U
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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2012-01-10, 2:52 AM

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36 seconds on an SSD sounds fairly poor, to be honest. You may want to see what's going on there.


Maybe he has one of those 5,400 RPM SSDs, instead of the newer model 7,200 RPM ones.  :)

 

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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2012-01-10, 4:37 AM

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36 seconds on an SSD sounds fairly poor, to be honest. You may want to see what's going on there.

Yes agree that 36s is not great compared to people getting 22s. I haven't had a lot of time to play with it, beyond try rapidboot and adjusting some services, but there is some software on it that i'm sure is slowing it down. As well as the antivirus, there is VPN, disk encryption and automated hard disk backup all loading at bootup. I use this for work, so i'm not willing to change stuff without knowing the changes will work.

 

PanEuropean, yes maybe i should return the SSD. Was sure i specified a 7200 RPM one... :)

 

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Re: RapidBoot with SSD?

2012-01-10, 10:02 AM

Before you go to all that trouble, just listen to it carefully.  If you hear too much whirring and clicking, it probably only needs a couple of runs through the defragmenter to tune it up again. :)

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