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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2012-12-07, 21:17 PM

Make sure you update the Firmware of the 840 Pro to DXM03B0Q

 

Update on Samsung SSD 840/840 Pro Failures

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6483/update-on-samsung-ssd-840840-pro-failures

 

Another Update Samsung SSD 840/840 Pro Failures

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6503/second-update-on-samsung-ssd-840840-pro-failures

 

 

 

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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2013-04-21, 0:26 AM

I've got an 840 pro and my W530 here.. I can't seem to figure out how to turn on FDE. There is no SSD option or FDE menu items in my bios..

 

Any hints on how you got this to work? Very frustrated at the moment, brand new W530 collecting dust because I can't get the SSD to use FDE :(

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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2013-04-21, 0:40 AM

wrote:

I've got an 840 pro and my W530 here.. I can't seem to figure out how to turn on FDE. There is no SSD option or FDE menu items in my bios..

 

Any hints on how you got this to work? Very frustrated at the moment, brand new W530 collecting dust because I can't get the SSD to use FDE :(


There is no SSD or FDE option in the BIOS. However FDE for the 840 may be enabled as follows:
1 - Hardware encryption is enabled by assigning a "HDD Password" in the bios. 
    
2 - The mother board must support TPM (Trusted Platform Module)

 


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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2013-04-21, 0:45 AM

Oh hmm, I was basing it off of http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/research/hints-or-tips/detail.page?&LegacyDocID=MIGR-69621

 

I guess this isn't correct for the W530's?

 

Regarding the HDD password, I did set it but was suprised that when I changed it the data on the disk was still available. I guess i'll have to swap the disk into another system to verify that the FDE is actually correctly enabled?

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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2013-04-21, 7:47 AM

On the Samsung, FDE is always enabled. TPM and password are not necessary. The drive transparently generates and uses an encryption key which is supposed to be unattainable, even if you take the disk apart.

 

It guards against someone removing the memory chips from the disk and reading them outside. It also allows to rapidly render the disk content unreadable: The encryption key can be dropped (via the Laptop's BIOS), and then the disk content becomes unrecoverable. Without FDE, one has to fill the disk with zeroes to make it clean, which takes a lot of time.

 

The password enables access to the disk and is independent of the FDE (many disks support a password, but do not have FDE). Your test of moving the disk will "fail": You will be able to read the disk if you move it to another machine (once you entered the password).

 

Of course, if you don't set a password, then the encryption is pretty useless: People can just move the disk to a Linux system and read it.

 

Regards, Martin

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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2014-05-12, 22:00 PM

Hi Chadwick

 

Actually I would like to do exactly the same think like you described above: "Thinking about putting this SSD in my W530 as the primary drive and moving the HDD to the Ultra Bay."

 

Did you do that? did it work?

 

Cheers and thanks for your help.

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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2014-05-26, 18:41 PM

On the W520 at least and on Windows 8.1 Lenovo's RST driver is buggy and you cannot enable any encryption mode on the 840 EVO SSD.  You will get "Failed to perform the operation on the selected disk" and all data security modes will be disabled. The issues goes away if you use Microsoft AHCI driver instead of the Intel RST driver. I'm not holding my breath for Lenovo to do anything abou tthe issue either.

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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2014-05-27, 11:22 AM

Interesting. I'm using Windows 7 SP1 and the Samsung 840 Pro with no issues on encryption. Is the 840 EVO at the latest firmware level?


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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2015-04-16, 16:56 PM

Hey all - been a long time. Finally pulled the trigger on a Samsung 850 Pro 512GB SSD. Should show up next week some time. 

 

I do have a question on the installation though. The 850 is a 7mm 2.5" drive while my current HDD that came with the laptop is a 9.5mm Toshiba. I've scoured this forum on information concerning the correct rubber rails and drive caddy for the 7mm SSDs but I still can't find anything conclusive and what action I should take.

 

First question: can I simply use the 9.5mm rubber rails and caddy for the 7mm SSD? Sure, they are off 3/32" and won't fit as snug but would that be a problem?

 

Second question: if I do need to order 7mm rubber rails, is the TP-60 at newmodeus what I need? I can't find anywhere in their product listings where it states that the rails are 7mm. They simply say they work with 9.5mm or less.

 

Any help would be appreciated.


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Re: Samsung 840 Series SSD

2015-04-21, 3:55 AM

Last update: got the Samsung 850 Pro SSD installed today and it seems to fit fine withint the rubber rails and caddy that came with the original 9.5mm hard drive. The thing was a breeze to install. Hooked it up to my computer with a SATA 2.5" to USB cable to clone the existing HDD with Samsung's software. As soon as that was done I shut down the laptop and popped out the old HDD and put in the SSD. Worked right away on first boot like nothing had changed.

 

Except that this W530 seems to have new life breathed into with this SSD. Boot is faster, programs open faster, read/write speeds are fantastic, and the laptop seems incredibly quiet now.

 

Should have done this much sooner. 


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