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Re:Samsung SSD 970 EVO not recognised by ThinkPad P51s

2021-04-11, 7:30 AM

When you do get it all sorted out, do use Macrium. It can fix boot issues caused by the OS. But I think your problem is hardware related.

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Re:Samsung SSD 970 EVO not recognised by ThinkPad P51s

2021-04-11, 7:35 AM

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T61-and-prior-T-series-plus-Other-Legacy-ThinkPads/NVMe-Controller-status-test-failed-with-T480-SSD/m-p/5074602

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Re:Samsung SSD 970 EVO not recognised by ThinkPad P51s

2021-04-11, 8:21 AM

> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T61-and-prior-T-series-plus-Other-Legacy-ThinkPads/NVMe-Controller-status-test-failed-with-T480-SSD/m-p/5074602

 

Not quite the same. That NVMe Controller Status Test passes for me, and I _can_ see the drive in BIOS and the boot menu.

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Re:Samsung SSD 970 EVO not recognised by ThinkPad P51s

2021-04-11, 16:27 PM

Since you have bought your spare 2nd SSD (Samsung 970 Evo), why don't you try to do product recovery on this new/spare/empty SSD?

 

******Please remember to back up your data, and remove your original SSD (with the working Windows OS) before you attempt your product recovery!


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Re:Samsung SSD 970 EVO not recognised by ThinkPad P51s

2021-04-14, 11:14 AM

Hello,

 

Out of curiosity, have you tried using the Samsung 970 EVO NVMe SSD in another computer?  If so, was it recognized and able to be formatted?

 

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Re:Samsung SSD 970 EVO not recognised by ThinkPad P51s

2021-04-14, 20:47 PM
No, I only have the one computer that can take NVMe
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Re:Samsung SSD 970 EVO not recognised by ThinkPad P51s

2021-04-14, 21:00 PM

Update:

 

I decided to try the ThinkPad Drive Erase Utility for Erasing the Solid State Drive, as I had been advised that this might be necessary for a Lenovo to recognise the NVMe.

 

I tried it and it failed. I then put the original NVMe back in and tried with that, and that sort of seemed to work - no error messages anyway. At that point in an Ubuntu livecd environment (the only OS I'm currently able to run) I could run `fdisk -l` without sudo, which listed the NVMe, then with sudo (which actually reads the drive) at which point an error is raised and then the NVMe is no longer visible to fdisk.

 

I put the new NVMe back in again, and again tried the Erase Utility ... and this time it worked! With a "success" message even, not just a lack of error messages. Now in an Ubuntu livecd I could actually see the NVMe and in fact could even `sudo fdisk -l` it, and see it in gparted, so this was getting further than I'd been with the new NVMe before.

 

So I tried installing Ubuntu on it. It seemed to go well, until the very end during post-installation cleanup, when it started giving disk errors.

 

I then tried booting the installed Ubuntu off the NVMe, and that worked too! Booted up, I checked a couple of things, I was actually running off the new NVMe which was exciting ... and then it crashed bad, blank screen with a filesystem error.

 

That's essentially what was happening in Windows on the original NVMe.

 

I think the conclusion now must be that the error is not in the NVMEs but in either the connector or the motherboard. I did note that this good run I had happened early in the day, the computer was cool and the air was cool. I suspect that temperature is playing a part - certainly I was getting most of my original BSoDs on Windows in the afternoon after the computer was warm.

 

For now, I'm buying an NVMe enclosure and I'm going to try running off it as an external hard drive. Which is annoying (extra cable) and means that all disk IO has to go over USB3 which is a bit of a waste, but AFAICS my only other option at this point is getting the motherboard replaced, and I am not sure how to go about that, or if it is at all feasible.

 

Thanks to everyone for your help and suggestions.

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Re:Samsung SSD 970 EVO not recognised by ThinkPad P51s

2021-04-15, 6:58 AM

For a P51s which is a relatively new machine IMO that speaks to poor Lenovo quality IMO. If you are out of warranty IMO try AliExpress or eBay.

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