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Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA [pic warning]

2009-03-25, 20:05 PM

Just tried to utilizemy Thinkpad Serial ATA (Lenovo Part number 43R1980). This is list as the correct Hard Drive Bay Adapter II for the W700 series. However, the adapter looks as though it is missing a bezel kit or such as it is a very sloppy or loose fit. This seems to me to be the wrong part but every thing on the website tells me it is the correct part. Is any one else utlizing a hard drive bay adapter, and if so, does it fit correctly?

 

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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-25, 23:33 PM

Deadlast:

 

I have several second hard disk expansion bay devices for my W500, they are identified as "Serial ATA Hard Drive Bay Adaptor II" with part numbers FRU 43R 1984 and ASM 43R 1981.

 

Both of the devices work just fine.  They are a wee bit more 'loose' in the expansion bay than the hard disk holders for my T42P were, but I attribute this to the somewhat smaller electrical connector on the newer design of the hard disk holder.  The new holder does not have (or need) the huge electrical connector that the older one had. 

 

I actually find that it is easier to install and remove these newer hard disk holders.  The 'looseness' is, I think, exactly what it should be - not too tight a fit, but not too loose either.

 

There is no bezel kit of any kind on my adaptors. The entire lower plastic surface (the bottom of it) is one single moulded piece that curves upward at a 90 degree angle (with a small 45 degree chamfer) to form the bezel that is visible when the tray is inserted in the UltraBay slot.  For this reason, I think it is impossible that you could be missing a part from the bezel, as there is no such part.

 

Let me know if you want me to post a picture of the hard drive holders that I have so you can compare them to what you have.

 

Michael

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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-26, 4:13 AM

deadlast - welcome to the forum!

 

the ultrabay SATA drive adapter was designed to use drives with caddies installed.   drives without a caddy will be a bit loose.   it's been this way since the first drive adapters were made over a decade ago.

 

the caddy i'm referring to can be found on your current internal SATA HDD.   it's made from thin stainless steel and has a bunch of 1/4" (~6mm) holes in it.   this essentially acts as a shim and takes up the slack you're seeing.

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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-26, 7:35 AM
Wait what? Shouldn't the drive bay be shipped with the caddy then?
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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-26, 9:25 AM

Here is a photo of a hard drive in an Ultrabay SATA thing, with the hard drive caddy on top (to show what it looks like).

 

Deadlast, are you sure you are folding down the little black retention bar visible at the top of the photo?  If you don't do that, the drive will be loose, caddy or no caddy.

 

http://dubfoto.com/albums/userpics/10003/Drive_caddy.jpg

 

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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-26, 9:27 AM

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Wait what? Shouldn't the drive bay be shipped with the caddy then?

 

No, that has never been the practice in the industry.  It is always assumed that the caddy comes with the drive, not with whatever the drive will go into (computer, Ultrabay thing, external enclosure, whatever).
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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-26, 12:18 PM
I think my question was not stated clearly. The sloppiness is not between the hard drive and that adapter, rather the sloppiness is how the adapter fits in the chassis.
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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-26, 14:36 PM

I have a w500 with the drive bay inserted too. I don't actually feel any sloppyness as such, allthou I did have to insert a folded piece of paper at one point between the drive bay adapter, and the chassis of the computer. Otherwise it would make a noise, some vibrating sort while in use.

 

I don't use a caddy in the drive bay adapter. Come to think of it, it sounds totally weird to do that? Are we talking past eachother with that caddy? We are talking the drive bay adapter instead of the cdrom drive right? Not the normal placement of the harddrive.

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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-26, 14:42 PM
You are correct, we are talking about removing the CDRom drive and inserting the drive bay adapter.
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Re: Sloppy Thinkpad Serial ATA

2009-03-26, 17:28 PM

Further to the point, the Blueray height is 0.531" and the height of the adapter is 0.405", giving a 1/8" air gap between it and the laptop chassis.

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