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Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-19, 13:16 PM

Hello everyone,

 

I finally decided to switch from Mac to Thinkpad, and that is mainly because of school work that requires Windows. Currently, my institution has two offers, so your advice would be very much appreciated. 

 

P50 for $1187 (remaining stock), which comes with ONE year manufacturing warranty and the following specs:

  • Intel Core i7-6820HQ processor (8MB Cache, Up to 3.6 Ghz)
  • 16GB DDR4-2133MHz SODIMM
  • 256GB SSD SATA3 OPAL2.0
  • NVIDIA Quadro M1000M 2GB
  • 720p HD Webcam
  • 15.6 FHD(1920×1080) IPS Display
  • Backlit keyboard
  • Fingerprint Reader

 

Or alternatively,  T570 for $1247 with THREE Years of Warranty and Acidendental damage protection and the following specs:

  • Intel Core i7-7600U Processor (4MB Cache, up to 3.90GHz)
  • 16GB DDR4-2133 RAM
  • 256Gb SSD PCIe-NVMe OPAL2.0
  • nVidia GeForce 940MX 2Gb GDRR5
  • 15.6” FHD Display (1920 X 1080)
  • 720p HD Webcam

 

If you also know a better way (or cheaper price) to get any of the above models, please share your thoughts. Thanks!

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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-19, 21:33 PM
Unless you need the additional processing power of the i7-6820HQ in the P50, I would purchase the T570 because of the upgraded warranty. Student life can be difficult for a machine. They get thrown into bags, are often used in coffee shops and other places near liquids, and sometimes fall off of tables and desks. The 3 years of Acidendental damage protection provides significant piece of mind that can be great for a student to have.

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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-20, 2:36 AM
It does definitely depend on what you're planning to do with the machine.

The 6820HQ is a quad-core, but the 7600U has much lower power consumption under load. If you need the cores for heavier computation or processing, you may want to consider the P50.

Likewise, the M1000M GPU is almost double the graphics horsepower of the 940MX, which may be a big deal if you're using CAD/CAM software or play games.

The three years of accidental warranty is nice, but you may get more value and future-proofing out of the P50 if you don't expose your laptop to all of the risks described above.

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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-20, 5:12 AM

I agree.  There isn't one right answer.  If you are majoring in film and plan to edit real-time vide or graphic design where yoy need to do complicated 30-D rendering, the P50 can support 64gb of RAM.  Most fields of study would be fine with either, and the T570 is one model newer and has the better warranty.


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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-20, 14:39 PM

Thank you all for your replies. I am a graduate student in public health, so most of my work involves data analysis using SAS and R, as well as writing papers and reports. I do not play games or do video editing. However, what got me interested in the P50 model is that: 1) it has a finger print reader. 2) Although it has the slower SSD (SATAIII), storage can be expanded easily in the future. 3) It has backlit keyboard. The lack of three years warranty is a downside for sure.

 

The price I am willing to pay is something around $1500, so I wonder if there are good offers (Black Friday or otherwise) on the P51? I am just looking for something reliable, with an excellent keyboard and screen, that I can work on for long hours. 

 

Thanks again!

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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-20, 15:52 PM

First, do you need a 15" machine?  Both the machines you asked about are 15", but 14" and smaller are more common.  I am not trying to convince you to buy any particular product, but the fact that you were first offered deals on 2 machines that happened to be 15", is not a good reason to limit yourself to that size, especially if you are not going to take one of the 2 deals.  Fingerprint readers,, 3-year warranties and fast SSDs are options on many machines.


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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-20, 17:40 PM

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, these are the only two Thinkpads (with "special price") available in through my university store. I still have a 2015 MacBook Pro 13", which is useful to take notes in class, but not for long hours of typing and data analysis using SAS. So, I thought my second system better be a 15". 

 

I wouldn't really mind a 14" laptop, and in fact I have looked online at T470 and ThinkPad 25 Special Edition. However, I am not sure how they compare with their larger siblings when it comes to screen real estate and quality. Also, I have never used touch (Macs don't have touch!), so I do not know if that is in fact useful. 

 

Any recommendations of a 14" computer are also appreciated!

 

Thanks!

 

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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-20, 19:17 PM

Touch is personal choice.  I use it if I have it, but I think it is not necessary for most uses.  Also, what I like might not be what you would like.  I have used a lot of machines, but not the T470 or T.P. 25.  I have an x1 yoga 2nd gen with a 2560X1440 touch screen that I think is really great for my use.  You might or might not like it


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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-20, 22:41 PM

I don't use SAS, so I'll leave the comments on it to people that are more familiar with the program.

 

Regarding touch, I personally do not find touch useful for most things. It is great if you bring the machine into the kitchen to use as a cookbook. I also find it nice to have if I'm using a machine to watch videos or otherwise consume content in a cramped space, like an airplane seat. My current machine does not have touch because I didn't find it useful enough on my last machine to pay extra. 

 

Regarding fingerprint reader, I personally would just rather type in a password. I rarely use mine on my laptop or my phone. Perhaps I'm missing out, but I tend to dislike anything that makes me take my fingers off of the home row. 

 

Regarding screen size, I find 14" to be about the perfect size for a laptop that is frequently used on a desk in an office and as a portable machine. I do normally use mine with a 24" monitor on my desk. I keep both screens active.

 

13" and under seems too small to me. Under 12.5" and I have trouble typing. I go back and forth between a full desktop keyboard and my laptop, and the key spacing is too awkward for me to get used to. 12.5" & 13.3" ThinkPads tend to have very usable keyboards, but I often feel the screens are too small to for getting lots of work done without sitting close or hunching over them. I can tolerate them for travel, and I think they are great for people that are frequently on the road. I'd just rather have a 14".

 

Going above 15.6" seems a little too large to me when I put one on my lap or for trying to use on a plane. They are a good bit thinner compared to the last time I owned one. I think I'd be happy with the size if I needed the extra power. I'm picky about resolution and screen density, and I'd want more than 1920x1080 resolution in a 15.6". That may not matter to you. Most of my work is looking at multiple documents that primarily text at the same time. 17.3" machines seem to be best used as desktop replacement machines for people that need to pick up and take lots of processing power with them.

 

If you want to go 14", the T470p has quadcore processors. It might be a good place to start looking.

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Re: Two Offers I am Considering From My Institution. Which One Would You Pick?

2017-11-21, 8:12 AM

Hello,

 

Have you asked any of your professors which model might be better for the kind of workload you'll be doing in school?

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 



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