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Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2018-07-13, 13:17 PM

Apologies in advance for the basic question but i thought I would ask this whilst i wait for this Thinkpad P1 to come out (at the moment i have no idea what the specs are and I am holding out in the hope that it has an option for LTE, otherwise i will go for another non-Lenovo brand that has a centered trackpad).

 

My question is to those who have had both a 4k and 1080p screen laptops of the same screen size: Am i right in assuming that i will see more of Word documents, Excel sheets, web pages and Outlook in box with a 4k screen? I do not do any video or photo work (pure office 365), so i wanted to see if the benefit of longer battery life of a 1080 screen is outweighed by having more visible text/pages etc. Hope that makes sense.

 

 

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Re: Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2018-07-17, 1:24 AM

Yes, you will see much more of any document on a 4K screen than a 1080p.  I have one of each, side by side.  For my purposes, having 4K is much preferred.

 

Do note, however, that if the screen size is the same, with 4K all display elements and text will be naturally rendered smaller -- if you are using Windows 10, it is not difficult to scale individual items (or everything) to any pleasing size.  Alternatively, you can zoom individual windows in most apps, should it be hard to read any particular document.  The lack of jagged edges under 4K makes even small text quite easy to read and work with.  Windows 7 is significantly more challanging to adjust visuals.

 

I would also recommend that if you go the 4K route, do consider a 17" laptop -- for my aging eyes, that is the ideal size for a 4K screen.

 

Good luck.

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Re: Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2018-07-17, 19:06 PM

The amount of displayed information depends on display scaling in Windows, and comfortable scaling depends on one's eyesight and the screen size.

 

For 17" screens, I personally find 150-175% scaling comfortable enough, so 4K can display more information than 1080p.

 

For 15.6" screen laptops, I set 100% scaling for 1080p and 200% for 4K, and thus the screen would display about the same amount of information in modern applications (such as browsers, Office 365 etc.), but with text and (more noticeably) images looking a little bit sharper on 4K.

 

Anything physically smaller than that IMO don't benefit from 4K screens really (even if marketing may claim otherwise).

 

That said, the performance/power saving benefit of 1080p over 4K, when applied to a laptop with a battery much larger than that of a cellphone, is negligible, if at all present. 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2018-07-20, 12:57 PM

Thanks very much "practical" for your time in responding. In that case although it may take a hit for battery life i may go for a 4k screen as i often compare two Word documents side by side (often with comments in the documents which pushes the width of the document to be even smaller).

 

Ive added this sentence since "p600" responded. If you ever get the time (and can be bothered!) it would be great to see 15.6 inch laptops next to each other one 1080 at 100% and one 4k at 100%. i cant seem to find anything on Youtube or on Lenovo's site. 

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Re: Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2018-07-20, 13:00 PM

Thanks p600. I am confused now. So that means if you set a 4k 15.6 laptop to 100% the buttons and menus in Word and Outlook are too small? I assumed Windows 10 scaling just made the buttons and menus bigger and not the text in email preview text, word documents, websites etc.

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Re: Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2018-07-20, 13:23 PM

Yes. With 100% scaling, text on 15.6" 4K screen is way too small for people with normal eyesight to work comfortably. And as you increase scaling, all user interface is usually proportionally scaled. 

 

You, of course, can adjust font sizes for email/Word, zoom etc. in applications, and fit more text on the screen. But at the end of the day, with 15" screen and smaller, it's physical size of the letters that will affect your ability to work comfortably with text, not the resolution of the screen (be it 4K or 1080p).

 

4K is better, and text looks a bit sharper than 1080p, even if you can fit about the amount of it on the screen. The only reasons not to get is additional cost and legacy applications that do not respect Windows scaling settings (old versions of Photoshop, many engineering tools etc. are like that).

 

 

 

 

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Re: Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2018-11-19, 18:45 PM

Actually, from all I've read, the power savings of a 1080p screen over a 4K screen is VERY significant, even on smaller laptops.

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Re: Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2020-05-30, 11:58 AM
What if set the resolution form 4K to 1080p on the 4K laptop? How does it compare with a 1080p laptop?
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Re:Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2020-05-30, 14:48 PM

4K panel set to FHD resolution is worse than FHD panel, because font smoothing does not work.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType 

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Re:Visibal Area Between 4k and 1080 Screen

2020-06-14, 9:34 AM

@ p600 wrote:
 

 

4K panel set to FHD resolution is worse than FHD panel, because font smoothing does not work.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType 

 

 

OK. Thanks! So let's stay in 4K. LOL

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