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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-10, 10:44 AM

You have two options:
either you do a clean new  install, then no special care is required
or you want to migrate your current installation, e.g. copy  your running system onto the new nSATA disk, then my advice is to power up with the old disk while the SSD is attached to make shure, the drivers are all present and only then copy the HDD to the SSD, then detach the HDD, attach the SSD and boot from the SSD.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-10, 10:48 AM

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-11, 8:52 AM

What a massive coincidence. You're performing the exact same upgrade I did over half a year ago.

First off: The Crucial M4 256GB SATA3 mSATA SSD is excellent. I bought one after the firmware issues were fixed (over half a year ago) and have had no problems thus far.

Second: The mSATA slot in ThinkPads run at SATA2 speeds. This is because the Intel QM77 chipset only supports 2 SATA3 lanes, both of which are routed towards the main hard drive bay and the ODD.

Third: SSDs are screaming fast. You will not notice the difference.

Fourth: mSATA II, or M.2 is an actual designation for a next generation form factor explicitly made for SSDs, try to avoid using that terminology when referring to something else. mSATA SSDs are excellent for people who want an SSD and two hard drives or maintain the optical drive along with a hard drive.

Fifth: Migrating an OS installed to an HDD to an SSD is tricky business. They do not have the same structure at all. Your life will be made easier (and cheaper) by just performing a fresh install.

 

Since you're using Windows 7, you won't have any install issues. Everything that comes with the factory settings is available somewhere. However, if you're like me and use Windows 8, the process involves installing Retail Windows 8 on the SSD, using a recovery USB to install Lenovo Windows 8 over retail (and then upgrading to Windows 8 Pro if you were on Core edition)

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-11, 17:56 PM

Wow thank you so much for the info!

 

Yes I'm gonna stick to Windows 7. Do you have any tips for doing so? I'm particularly worried about trasferring over any drivers and product key.

 

Also, any suggestions on where to buy a crucial?

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-11, 19:42 PM

As long as you have the same motherboard, and install the same edition (Professional, Ultimate, etc.) Windows will always activate just fine. Windows 7 is also known to have ~3 activations on entirely different computers before stopping.

You won't find any issues finding drivers for Windows 7. I still recommend you perform a clean install. They are all available in Lenovo's support pages.

I bought my Crucial M4 from Newegg. It was a lot cheaper though when I bought it. Around $200.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-11, 22:22 PM

Yes, I wil keep looking till the price drops.

 

One more question, so would I go through this procedure: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/research/hints-or-tips/detail.page?DocID=HT073737

 

before doing a clean install of windows?

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-12, 15:47 PM

Waiting for the new W540. When I get it I will go thru this upgrade probably with the Cruical M500 480GB mSata drive.

 

I wont do a clean install -- too much work. Instead:

 

1. Create the Thinkpad recovery disks. This assumes you havn't destroyed the factory partitioning by earlier performing a clean install.

 

2. Remove the hard drive. If you have never done this, its one screw to remove the lid and the hard disk slides out in its casing. Install the mSata drive.

 

3. Boot the recovery media and restore (now the mSata drive) to factory settings.

 

4. Boot from the mSata drive and hold down F1 to get into Bios setup. Verify the mSata drive is ahead of the HDD  in the boot order. Save the Bios setup and verify your new mSata drive system is working correctly.


5. Put back the HDD and boot again. Run Windows Update and Thinkvantage Systems Update. Optionally remove any bloatware on the mSata drive.

 

That's all. No worry about drivers etc. And you are not touching your HDD until you know you have a working system on the mSata drive.

 

Here is a Lenovo mSata primer. On page 4 they agree Lenovo's recovery disks align correctly both for ssd and hdd. Towards the last couple of pages the consensus seems to be the recovery disks are preferrable to a clean install.

T500: Vista 32, 2.8GHz, 4GB RAM, 15.4" 1680x1050, 500GB 7200rpm, ATI Radeon HD3650 + Intel 4500MHD. T42: XP, 1.7GHz, 2GB RAM, 14.1" 1024x768, 250GB PATA, ATI Radeon 7500.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-12, 17:33 PM

I've tried those exact steps before. Using Windows 8 you'll get a problem where it continuously looks for setup files despite inserting the recovery USB.

The solution I've found was installing a retail version of Windows 8, then performing a Reset with the recovery USB to get the factory settings and applications back.

But since he's using Windows 7, he can just ignore the recovery USB altogether and install retail and not have anything impossible to find.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-12, 18:43 PM

What do you mean by "just ignore the recovery USB altogether and install retail and not have anything impossible to find"?

What would be my advantage to doing so instead of installing with the recovery discs?

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-12, 22:12 PM

If you run into the situation that the recovery media taken from the recovery partition won't work because of "Some files are missing", or something to that extent, you will not be missing anything other than wallpapers if you were to perform a clean install of retail Windows 7 and search for the W530 on the Lenovo Support page and download all of the necessary drivers.

Windows 8 is different, you will be missing some nonessential apps that can't be gotten any other way than through the recovery media.

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