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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-15, 20:24 PM

If you put your recovery media on a USB key/drive make sure you follow the full procedure here. Lenovo's licensing agreement with Microsoft only allows you one chance to build the recovery media so if you mess it up ...

 

Don't know what SirStranger's problem with the USB key was but if you forgot to make an active partition so the stick isnt bootable then this thread tells you how to recover.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-15, 22:55 PM

The issue with the recovery media USB is that when trying to use it on a completely empty hard drive or SSD, it will fail because the recovery media is similar to upgrade media. Without the base system files somewhere it will refuse to install, at least that was the case with Windows 8. It isn't a matter of setting the partition to active, Windows detects setup media and does that automatically.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-15, 23:04 PM

so what is the solution to this problem? Or like someone mentioned before, will this just fail with windows 8 and not 7?

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-16, 0:21 AM

There is no issue because neither Windows 8 nor Windows 7 are involved -- if set up correctly (with an active partition) you boot from the USB stick that installs its images onto a drive and completelöy overwrites whats on that drive.

 

Just follow the instructions in the link and you will have recovery media that you can use repeatedly to restore the factory settings on new drives. Totally selfcontained and not needing anything not already on the stick.

 

But this also assumes you never did a clean install nor in any other way modified the partitions on your system. Once any partition is modified the creation of recovery media will probably no longer work. In such a case Lenovo support will charge you for a set of recovery disks -- this is not considered part of the warranty.

 

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-16, 0:43 AM

But that's incorrect. Windows 8's recovery partition is specifically made to perform a Reset or a Refresh. The active partition doesn't come into play, and the USB can already boot. It boots Windows Recovery Environment for the user to perform a Reset or Refresh. Windows 7's is different though. It boots the setup instead, and it does work without a prior installation.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-16, 1:24 AM

You are right the Windows 8 and Windows 7 processes are different to create recovery media and then performing a factory reset. Specifically the active partition instructions only apply to Windows 7.

 

Here is the Windows 7 process.

 

Here is the Windows 8 process.

 

In the Windows 8 process an option has been added to also do the factory reset over an existing Windows 8 disk. But this isn't applicable to the mSata disk, there you must follow the Windows 8 process instructions to do the factory reset to a blank disk. I see the instructions are unclear for this case -- I read them to say you must not tick the target system to load over existing Lenovo preload when you have a blank disk.

 

The Windows 8 "Some required files are missing" bug shows up in a number of forum threads not just for the case of a blank disk. It doesn't have a general resolution, only partial solutions, see for instance this thread.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-16, 5:28 AM

I think you're misunderstanding something, I don't have any problems that need to be solved. I already know how to install my copy of Windows 8 on other hard drives and have done it multiple times (for various reasons) with success.

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-16, 5:31 AM

Yes but I'm trying to understand how I can go through the installation on a new SSD, in parallel to the HDD, so thanks!

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Re: W530 mSATA upgrade: a few questions

2013-09-17, 12:45 PM

I encountered this problem with windows 8 on similar machines. My workaround was to remove the HDD temporarily before the installation of the OS and reinstall it after the installation was complete. Win 8 succesfully installed (or was cloned from an image) to the msata SSD.


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