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W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-14, 19:54 PM

I just received a new W540 and I am unable to boot from CD/DVD.  Any attempts result in a BSOD indicating the BIOS is not APCI compatible

 

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There is no UEFI/BIOS options to set the 'SATA Controller Mode' accordingly, nor does the [F7] text mode option work.

I am hoping someone in the community can shed some light onto this issue.

 

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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-15, 0:41 AM

Hello,

 

For clarification, which version of Windows are you trying to boot from CD? Can it be possible that your installation media is faulty? I have seen this type of BSOD a couple of times when setting up computers, and what I found out was that it was the installation media that was the culprit with the exeption of a bad RAM chip on one occasion.

 

But you're correct, the SATA compatibility mode has been removed from BIOS on the latest model ThinkPads.

 

If installing Windows 7, are you planning on installing it in UEFI or in legacy mode? Because then you'd need to adjust your Secure Boot - UEFI/Legacy boot settings before installation.

ThinkPad P1 - i7-8750H/32GB // ThinkPad P70 - Xeon E3-1505M/64GB
ThinkPad W540 (20BG) - i7-4800MQ/32GB // ThinkPad W520 (4282-W4Q) - i7-2720QM/32GB
ThinkPad T450s (20BW) - i7-5600U/12GB // Yoga 900 - i7-6500U/8GB
ThinkPad T61 (7665-CTO) - T7700/4GB // ThinkPad T60p (8741-C2G) - T7400/4GB
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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-15, 5:37 AM

AltiJarl

Windows 7 Pro x64, and a direct ISO burn from Microsoft, and I've used a few different burns just to be sure it wasn't media before posting.

 

The oddity is that the W540 preships with the OS installed in legacy mode, but yet no support for ACPI/Compatibility modes for SATA. The factory bloatware OS is replaced with a clean install to ensure we get the most out of what we paid for.  Once a standard is achieved we then image for quick turnaround on additional W540's.

 

I have no options but to use legacy mode for the clean install, as UEFI is not supported for any commercial centrally managed full disk encryption.  If I can't get legacy mode to install then it doesn't give me much hope for PXE boot to capture the image afterwards.

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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-15, 15:25 PM

Have you tried copying the contents from the ISO onto a NTFS formatted USB key and tried to boot that way?

ThinkPad P1 - i7-8750H/32GB // ThinkPad P70 - Xeon E3-1505M/64GB
ThinkPad W540 (20BG) - i7-4800MQ/32GB // ThinkPad W520 (4282-W4Q) - i7-2720QM/32GB
ThinkPad T450s (20BW) - i7-5600U/12GB // Yoga 900 - i7-6500U/8GB
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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-15, 16:05 PM

Using a USB boot was my next recourse.

I wonder why Lenovo makes it so difficult :smileyfrustrated:

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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-15, 16:36 PM

Be careful when buying a USB stick. Sandisk Cruzer Glide are compliant to Microsofts's new "Destroy the PC market" protocol AND CANNOT be made bootable.

 

There is NO packaging labelling to indicate what is going on (On-the-Go MS certification).

 

http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/All-SanDisk-USB-Flash-Drives/Cruzer-Blade-USB-Flash-Drives-16-Gb-Acts-like-a-normal-harddisk/td-p/297958

 

I guess the W540 follows the need for user Workarounds.  Just Google the Sandisk issue, and calculate how much time was AND is wasted by the PC Workstation Workers to WORKAROUND the MS catering to the masses.

 

I discovered the issue AFTER buying a 64gb USB Cruzer Glide (USD 80 down the drain), and trying to make a True Image Rescue key.  Check Google, the Web is litered with users trying workarounds, when in fact the real workaround is to buy a Micron Technology / Crucial / Lexar product.  BTW, I'm using Crucial in my W540 with no issues.  Using Lexar CF for all my cameras.

 

MS plans to go into the cloud.  Nothing will work anymore.  Linux will become the Workstation standard in 5-10 years.

The PC market has been destroyed by Win 8, black boxes and the new trackpads.

 

Went to Walmart a couple of days ago, and they had on clearance all the inventory of Logitech trackpads T-650.  Spoke to the sales person, they told me they did not sell.  Asked about the 'mice' sales, and she mentioned they are selling a lot of 'mice'.

 

====== From Sandisk Tech uspport after MANY exchnanges  ======

I understand your concern, however please note that in mid-2013 SanDisk changed production of its USB Drives configured as fixed disk to meet a perceived certification requirement. SanDisk USB Drives with either removable or fixed disk configuration will work the same when used for data storage on Windows PC and Mac computers. SanDisk is in the process of reverting back to producing USB Drives configured as removable disk.

NOTE: There is no tool available to change SanDisk USB Drives between fixed and removable disk configuration. I would request you to please contact the place of purchase for the replacement of this drive, if the drive is within the retailer's warranty as the flash drive does not meet the requirements of your application.

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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-15, 17:02 PM

@Sparky70, and did installation succeed without a hitch using the USB key?

 

If this is a CD drive / BIOS related problem, I'm going to try to replicate the issue on my T440 machines.

ThinkPad P1 - i7-8750H/32GB // ThinkPad P70 - Xeon E3-1505M/64GB
ThinkPad W540 (20BG) - i7-4800MQ/32GB // ThinkPad W520 (4282-W4Q) - i7-2720QM/32GB
ThinkPad T450s (20BW) - i7-5600U/12GB // Yoga 900 - i7-6500U/8GB
ThinkPad T61 (7665-CTO) - T7700/4GB // ThinkPad T60p (8741-C2G) - T7400/4GB

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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-16, 20:01 PM

AtliJari,
I was able to get a WinPE boot running off USB - bonus. Now I can finally load a clean Windows 7.

 

 

Bauden,
Not sure what issues you had with the SanDisk Cruser Glide, as that is exactly what I used. [F12] is showing it a a Cruzer Micro, but as long as I selected the right one in [F12] it would boot without issue.

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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-16, 20:04 PM

Excellent! Good you got it up and running. I'm going to investigate this CD boot issue a bit further. Thanks!

ThinkPad P1 - i7-8750H/32GB // ThinkPad P70 - Xeon E3-1505M/64GB
ThinkPad W540 (20BG) - i7-4800MQ/32GB // ThinkPad W520 (4282-W4Q) - i7-2720QM/32GB
ThinkPad T450s (20BW) - i7-5600U/12GB // Yoga 900 - i7-6500U/8GB
ThinkPad T61 (7665-CTO) - T7700/4GB // ThinkPad T60p (8741-C2G) - T7400/4GB
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Re: W540: BSOD during CD boot

2014-07-16, 21:18 PM

Cruzer Glide and Cruzer Micro are two different USB type (Original Micro had U3 feature).  There may also be local versions of the drive that may not be the same as those delivered to the US. (my sample was made in China for Sandisk).  It looks like this:

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