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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-04, 11:17 AM

It is amazing that the Lenovo product people should obviously be so boneheaded as not to listen to their customers!

 

W-Series machines are supposed to be for professionals -- instead, what seems to be happening is the continued incorporation of consumer laptop "features" which power users have no use for and are plainly upset about (described very well in other posts).

 

Remember when Cadillac was the premium car in the US?  What happened -- the "genuises" GM completely cheapened the brand in the name of "efficiency" and mass production.  The result?  Loyal owners abandoned them in favor of more expensive imports.

Price is really not a large issue for users such as us -- performance and features are.  Wake up, Lenovo!

 

If Lenovo doesn't get smart and recognize that they have held premier position amongst professional users for good reason, they risk losing it forever.  Unfortunately, I am (very reluctantly) eyeing the M3800 from Dell and some of the new HP models as it does not appear likely that the W540 will fill the bill.

 

Very disappointing indeed.  I can only hope my superb W700 stays functional until a reasonable replacement appears on the horizon.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-04, 12:14 PM

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Neutered trackpad with no real buttons?  Still this useless chiclet keyboard?  Awkward keyboard placement with number pad and off-centre trackpad?  More shiny plastics?  NOBODY'S ASKING FOR THESE NON-FEATURES.

 

Only one step left to officially make the ThinkPad  worthless garbage like the rest of them: rear-mounted, non-metal hinges ... coming soon on the W550!

 

This is why I'm stocking up on used ThinkPads from eBay.

 

Posted from the excellent and venerable T60 with what is proably the best laptop keyboard ever made.  RIP ThinkPad.

 

 

The middle button's there, but integrated to the touchpad like the left and right buttons.

So, what then?  We just have to futz around blindly until we find it?  That'll be just great for productivity.  Who' s making these continually idiotic design decisions? Does no one at Lenovo have even the slightest concept of tactility?


 

No, they are marked with dots like the current  W's Center Thinkpoint button. All of the buttons on the new trackpad are marked.


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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-04, 13:17 PM
No, they are marked with dots like the current W's Center Thinkpoint button. All of the buttons on the new trackpad are marked.
That's still comparatively useless next to real, actual raised buttons.
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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-04, 20:14 PM
I don't really use the PgUp/PgDn keys if TrackPoint scrolling is available.

Proper Home and End keys are really really useful; Shift+Home or Shift+End is really nice for full and partial line selections.

While a white chassis might work thermally, I'd think it'd be really glare-prone in the sun and make a dim screen even harder to read.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-04, 21:32 PM

Seeing how the average configuration of the W540 is going ot be over $2k, lenovo should seriously consider a configurable keyboard.  Personally, I would pick the T61/W500 keyboard (7 rows, individual keys), preferably with NO touchpad.  Some might want a touchpad and no stick, others will want the numeric keypad ( I don't). Much like the old choice for a fingerprint reader (I've had 2 thinkpads with them, but never used it).

Only thing better would be 16:10 screen.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-05, 0:08 AM

I never understood why they can't give user configurable keyboards    I HATE the function key and would pay extra to have a standard 104 layout.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-05, 14:13 PM

Well, they brought the separated F-keys back. That's one good thing.

Unfortunately, the screen looks very delicate compared to my W500, and I have a sneaking suspicion that the pagup and pagedown keys are next to the arrow keys.

I like having the pageleft and pageright keys next to the arrow keys because I can map those to switch workspaces, so it's like having five screens instead of one (or, however many I choose to have). If I tried that with pageup and pagedown... I'm pretty sure that the results would be predictably disastrous. I might be able to do something with xmodmap and stickers, though, so this is not a complete deal-breaker. (Who really uses the delete and insert keys, anyway?)

The numpad might be really good, and I've never actually used the type of keys they have on it, so I'll remain hopeful about those features. I'll have to wait for other people's experiences on the touchpad.

I'm a little nervous about the lack of keyless space to the bottom-left of the keyboard to rest my hand on. (Lefties will probably be okay, because there's the space under the numpad)

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So, in conclusion, my biggest concern with the W540 at the present time is durability.

 

I will also reiterate that what I really want is the W500 with better internal specs and a renewed warranty.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-05, 16:09 PM
Options cost money. It costs money to produce, store, and support store twice as many components.

I really wouldn't mind if they allowed users to mod it more easily. They should've kept the key mappings the same on the __30 series so the palmrest/keyboard swap would have worked.

I've always mapped RightCtrl+PageBack/PageForward to switching virtual desktops.

As for durability, the internal rollcage may or may not have disappeared.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-05, 17:49 PM

Leftie reporting in, my typing and mouse habits are the same as right handed people, although I use an unconventional non-home row typing method and as such left hand dominates most keypresses. It's equally inconvenient.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-09-05, 18:41 PM
[Options cost money. It costs money to produce, store, and support store twice as many components.]

Money that many of us have made it quite clear we're willing to pay.
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