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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-07-02, 16:46 PM

Im using it right now, and I assure you, Its not bad at all. I like it better than the W520s keyboard. 

I should clarify that I only use the dock when im working at home. Whenever I take the laptop with me, Im using the Chiclet.


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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-07-02, 19:05 PM

Well, I guess your typing requirements are completely linear.  I need to be able to jump around my text.  A lot.  And without dicking with the mouse cusror, looking down at the keyboard to find the improperly-placed HOME or END keys or holding in an arrow key for 20 minutes.  I don't have time for this, I have stuff to get done.

 

Many typists, especially programmers like myself, absolutely must have as close to the proper ANSI layout as possible.  This means:

 

1) INS / DEL / HOM / END / PGU / PGD in a 3x2 cluster on the top right, with a notable physical seperation from the "primary mass" of keys.

 

2) F keys must actually be F keys (not the secondary function to some hotkeys for wifi, screen brightness and other seldom-used BS) and be separated into blocks of four

 

3) Sorry, chiclets are junk.  I need to be able to type entirely by feel, that often means surfing my fingers along the keyboard to hit text navigational keys.  Chiclets make this impossible because there is just too much depth between each key and because they are all evenly separated.  Lenovo may have the best chiclets of any laptop, but that's like saying you've got the best STD.  Ew.

 

It's the classic ThinkPad keyboard or nothing.

 

This post proudly typed on a T60, the last of the ThinkPads with an actual ThinkPad keyboard.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-07-02, 20:37 PM

In all my time programming on this computer, I can honestly say ive never touched the page up or page down. I usually hit the scroll wheel or control F to find what im looking for. I can type on this thing in the dark, without the lighting(I don't have the backlit keyboard), and without looking at it most of the time. The only difficulty I have is switching between an non chiclet and the chiclet, or going from the laptop to a tablet.

 

 

And the F keys ARE f keys. the secondary functions(brightness, wifi, media) only work when the F key is pressed.


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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-07-03, 2:18 AM

PGUP/PGDN maybe not so much.  HOME/END/DEL ... ALL. THE. TIME

 

I actually recorded the number of times I actually use those keys while programming.  I think it was about 100 times in eight minutes. That's a hundred times I would have to look down at a chiclet board because those keys can't be reached by feel.  I would never get anything done.

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-07-03, 17:49 PM

Never touched those either.

 

Didnt take me that long to feel for those keys though.  everyone is different, but the new key placement isnt the end of the world. 

 

I found it easy to feel for the delete key and move inward(Delete key is physically bigger, and the end key is two away). 

 

In other aspects i find that I can type faster using this keyboard than the old thinkpad ones.


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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-08-02, 8:47 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing what the next generation Lenovo Workstation class laptop has for power users.

 

As a long time W520 users, I agree the keyboard sucks for the following reasons.

-Fn & Ctrl placement horrid for cut/copy/paste short cut users.  

(at least you can "swap" the keys in the Bios! They better keep that option on the W540)

 

-the two buttons crammed next to the up arrow key are useless and in the way.

(I often flub up a web form because I accidnetally perss one of the forward/back keys while arrowing around the page.)

 

-The 1080P screen actually seems a little dim after 2 years of use.    I'm looking forward to a brighter screen on the w540  (wouldn't mind a touch screen either, I like using bluestacks android emulator, and some Win 8 apps will catch on at some point)

 

-Power brick is WAY TOO BIG/Heavy to lug around.  

(hopefully they find power optimizations, and still give us raw CPU/Graphics power we want)

 

-Touch Pad SUCKS!   (w520 feels "grainy/textured" terrible)  I've never found a Lenovo touchpad I liked. They don't respond accurate enough or feel as good as other Laptops out there.

 

-I hate the keyboard (layout) so much I actually got a docking station and hooked up my regular 104 keyboard recently.  I just added an AOC 29" Ultra Widescreen (2560 x 1080) monitor.  This thing rocks, never enjoyed a monitor as much as this one.    FYI you only get 2560 x 1080 if you hookup a DisplayPort cable.  You can't use a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter, you'll be limited to 1080P.  

 


 

So yeah I pretty much hate all laptop keyboards, chicklet or not, nothing beats a real desktop keyboard with standard 104 layout.

 

-I'm a huge trackpoint fan, so keep that there as well please.

I might even get a keyboard from Unicomp that included a track point.

http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/EnduraPro

The default comes with clicky loud "buckling spring" keys you either love or hate.   You can add a custom order and request "soft dome" quiet keys.   I'm not suer I can justify the price but I'm on the fence.   I do miss using a trackpiont when I'm docked.  You brain keeps wanting to look for it.    

 

 

I did find a usb keyboard with trackpoint by lenovo but it has the same lame Fn Ctrl key layout.  

 

 

And guess what, you CAN'T SWAP THE KEYS! (like you can in the bios of the Thinkpad)  You're STUCK with the perm layout, and will be hitting that Fn key with your pinky when it's time to cut/copy/paste.    Why IBM/Lenovo keeps the FN key there I'll never understand.

 

Ok so that's my mini bring dumb, I'm sure I have more things to list but that's all for now.

 

P.S. I came close to buying a Lenovo Helix, but decieded to go witha  docking station and full sized keyboard & monitor instead.  I like having some NVidia GPU power and large smart bay 2.5" hard drive enclosure etc.    The helix is pretty cool but I don't think I'd use it mobile enough to justify the price/change

 

My new docking system and monitor fits perfecty on my new 36" wide desk with keyboard tray.

http://www.target.com/p/z-line-omega-office-writing-computer-desk-with-pull-out-tray-black/-/A-13291069

 

 

 

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-08-12, 17:02 PM

I have a W500 and am pretty much satisfied with it.

In fact, what I'd really like to get would pretty much be a computer just like the W500 but with more powerful components.

Other improvements over the W500 that I could really get behind:

  • Higher automatic fan speeds -- I have a software controller that keeps the computer cool by running the fans full blast whenever any component of the computer gets toward "heavy load" temperatures.
  • Brighter screen -- it's sometimes a little hard to see what's onscreen when I'm out in the sun.
  • White color option -- the computer's surface can get pretty hot in the sun.


I have no sympathy for the people asking for a thinner W-model -- this is a workstation, not a fashion accessory; I am entirely satisfied by the brick-like feel of my Thinkpad, and would not be averse to something slightly thicker and/or heavier if it meant the computer would be sturdier or otherwise better.

I'm also going to add my voice to the people asking for the old keyboard back. (i.e., the kind on the W500)

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-08-15, 18:27 PM

I would like to see a 17 inch again. I dont know if I would like to lug it around, but i think now a 17 inch would be lighter than the W700.  perhaps with the nvidia K5000M


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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-08-18, 20:02 PM

A 17-inch W740 that weighs about as much as the current W530 would be awesome! 

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Re: W540 Wish List

2013-08-23, 18:10 PM

Definitely a 17 inch model with the NVidia K5100M, because that card has 8GB GDDR5 dedicated. So much overkill.


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