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W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-09, 0:14 AM

 Matt Kohut is from Lenovo, and he says, "No".

 

 

"Matt Kohut Says:
September 1st, 2008 at 10:03 pm

Karthik,

W700. Bottom Roll Cage = yes. Top Roll Cage = no.
W500. Bottom Roll Cage = yes. Top Roll Cage = yes."

 

http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=155#comment-52035

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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-10, 2:42 AM

my 15" T42p survived 3.5 years of hard use and weekly travel without a top or bottom rollcage.   i don't see the W700 being weaker than a T4x by any means.

 

you could always glue a 1/8" sheet of 1K unidirectional structural carbon fiber to the lid.   you'd crush the sidewalls before the carbon gave way. ;)

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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-10, 6:31 AM

 


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my 15" T42p survived 3.5 years of hard use and weekly travel without a top or bottom rollcage.   i don't see the W700 being weaker than a T4x by any means.

 


 

 

 

 

I would gladly trade the cheap plastic (no carbon) exterior of a W700 for the exceptional magnesium and titanium composite exterior of a T42.

 

It would be so very cool if Lenovo put today's technology into the body of a T42.

 

 

PS

 

Only the X300 and X301 have a carbon fiber casing.

 

 

 

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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-10, 13:47 PM
have you used a W700?   if so, has the lack of a top rollcage been an issue or caused any problems?

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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-10, 16:23 PM

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have you used a W700?   if so, has the lack of a top rollcage been an issue or caused any problems?

 

CDW is sending us one for evaluation.

 

ThinkPads have always been differentiated by their incredible build and support structures. To suddenly drop these support structures from the biggest model that they have ever produced is very awkward.

 

One minute Lenovo tells us that ThinkPads are superior laptops because of their internal roll cages, and the next minute they tell us that it is okay not to have such roll cages. Hello? Am I the only one confused by this?

 

I could understand it if they would have used a magnesium and titanium composite instead, but just using cheap plastic is not good.

 

This "beast" could crack in half like the Titanic!

 

I will be sure to post a follow up once we have checked it out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-10, 18:08 PM

LukeD & erik,

 

Thank you for your interest in the W700.  I have one and am very impressed with its design and performance.

 

The LCD cover itself is made from a magnesium composite material and doubles as the top rollcage.  It would have been helpful if Mr. Kohut would have clarified this instead of leaving the impression of a weak design.

 

Regards

 

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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-10, 18:23 PM

@ Icepick,

 

you mean the good old, but modernised, thump it and hurt your hand IBM 600 exoskeleton?

 

OK, I admit, maybe a bit OTT, but hopefully in the spirit of..

Andy  

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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-11, 13:27 PM

LukeD wrote:

I could understand it if they would have used a magnesium and titanium composite instead, but just using cheap plastic is not good.

 

This "beast" could crack in half like the Titanic!


i still don't understand why you think the W700 has a plastic lid.   even my X61T and X61s have magnesium lids.   i don't know if you've ever held an X61T or X61s LCD lid by themselves but they are quite robust for their given weight.   i haven't seen the W700 lid yet but imagine it's quite a beast given the overall weight specs.

 

i realize the internet wouldn't be as fun if we couldn't go online and complain (sarcasm intended) but you should have more faith in lenovo than to assume they dropped all means of LCD protection in favor of simple plastic. ;)

 

let us know how your tests go when your W700 arrives. :)

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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-11, 13:52 PM
Yes, LukeD. Instead of making all these assumptions please wait until you have actually touched the unit so we can have some real feedback. I'm interested in the facts, not conjecture.
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Re: W700 does not have a Top Roll Cage!

2008-09-11, 19:56 PM

wrote:

LukeD & erik,

 

Thank you for your interest in the W700.  I have one and am very impressed with its design and performance.

 

The LCD cover itself is made from a magnesium composite material and doubles as the top rollcage.  It would have been helpful if Mr. Kohut would have clarified this instead of leaving the impression of a weak design.

 

Regards

 


 

 

 

Icepick,

 

Thank you!

 

Mr. Kohut should have clarified this.

 

 

Erik,

 

The magnesium composite has never caused interference with my wireless connections. Apple, HP, and Dell have been using aluminum or magnesium in their top notebooks for years, and, from experience, they have better connectivity than my Lenovo products.

 

Carbon-unit,

 

All other manufacturers have their products available at retail locations. Lenovo does not. Therefore, Lenovo needs to give more details on their products.

 

Not only can I go see other notebooks at stores, but I can also find out what an HP Elitebook notebook has been made from with a few quick clicks. The same goes for Sony's Z series, Dell's latitude series, and Apple's MacBook Pro series.

 

Lenovo writers are morons, who do not give all the details, or who give the wrong details, like when they had said the T61 had a carbon-fiber top case.

 

http://forum.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=W_ThinkPads&thread.id=30

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