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Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-14, 16:53 PM

Boot up times on my W541 with Windows 10 and 16 gig ram have been increasing for about 4 or 5 months.  I do the Windows 10 updates as requested and am updating the computer with Lenovo updates.

On boot up, the Lenovo screen is present for about 1 minute and 10 seconds and the total time to get to the login screen is about 3 minutes.

Any help to shorten this boot up time will be appreciated.

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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-15, 14:32 PM

Hello Geophyte1,

 


Greetings

 

 

If your computer has slowed down and the time it takes to boot has gone up, it is likely because there are too many programs running on startup. 
Lots of programs come with an option to run automatically at boot. 
Make sure to not disable programs you actually need, like your antivirus or driver programs
Programs that are loaded as the computer starts up remain active in memory. Consequently, they are one of the main causes of a slow boot into Windows. Disabling programs you don't often use from automatically loading up each time the computer powers on can decrease boot time.

Kindly check the links below on how to improve the boot up time and performance:

https://www.lenovo.com/ph/en/faqs/laptop-faqs/how-to-speed-up-your-computer/

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/tips-to-improve-pc-performance-in-windows-10-b3b3ef5b-5953-fb6a-2528-4bbed82fba96

Update us how it goes.

 


Regards, 
Lorenzo_Lenovo



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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-15, 22:21 PM

Hello Lorenzo,

 

Thank you for the reply.

 

I have looked at the two links you sent and had already done many of the things they list.  I keep my startup folder very skinny.  I did run a hardware diagnostic using the Lenovo solution Center and everything passed.

 

The problem I'd really like to have ideas about is the fact that the very first screen you see when booting up, the ThinkPad screen, is staying resident for over one minute when I boot the computer.  I've had Windows 10 installed on this computer for at least 2 years and the initial ThinkPad screen staying resident for an extended time has just started occurring in the last few months.

 

I have looked at the startup logs and there is one administrative event error that occurs about every minute once the computer has booted.  It is "Error while updating  status to SECURITY_PRODUCT_STATE_ON., Event ID 16"  This is the only error I see on the computer events and there are no critical errors,

 

Not sure if that has anything to do with the ThinkPad screen staying resident.

 

Again, any help will be appreciated.

 

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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-20, 23:49 PM

How was it running clean boot state?
Compare it also when restarting the machine on safe mode.

 


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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-23, 11:43 AM

Hi!

To troubleshoot long boot times I would:

1. Ensure I have no USB or docking ports attached. (does it stay the same?)

(if Yes)

2. What boot device do I have? HDD? SSD? If you pull it out, are we still seeing long screens before failing to boot?

(If No, look at 3, If Yes go to 4)

3. Re-inserting the boot device, do the long screens come back? I would then look at replacing the medium as it might start to show symptoms of impeding corruption.

Done.

4. Take laptop apart, make sure to re-seat memory DIMMS as well as Wireless Ethernet card. Does it fix the issue?

(If yes you are Done, if No run diagnostics and go to 5)

5. Do you suffer some kind of Motherboard or BIOS corruption? Reload BIOS defaults (and take care to remove any device before your HDD/SSD in the boot order list)

If nothing of the above affects your issue I might consider the machine spent and it is time to look for a new one.

 

good luck

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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-24, 15:36 PM

Thank you again Lorenzo.

I'm pasting a table of times from depressing the power button that different things happened during boot for various scenarios.  The list is also a sequence of events.

 

Type of Boot TP TP+ WP login screen appeared
Startup from shutdown 0:36 1:20   about 3:00
Removed Boot and data drives 0:36 0:44    
Safe Mode 0:31 1:10 2:10 2:23
Clean Boot 0:31 1:10 2:10 2:27
Restart from Clean Boot 0:31 1:10 2:10 2:32
Restart after reset from Clean Boot 0:31 1:13 2:12 2:27
Shut down and Startup 0:36 1:20 2:22 2:54
         
TP = ThinkPad screen before the line appears saying how to change boot
TP+= ThinkPad screen with the line present saying how to change boot
WP = 4 window panes        
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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-25, 14:05 PM

My W541 takes around 48s from issuing reboot command until logged on W10.

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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-25, 21:00 PM

Thank you for your help, freddellmeister. 

Responses to your first post with the list:

  1. Disconnecting USB devices and booting yielded a boot sequence timing that was very close to the same as a clean boot or safe mode as shown in my answer to Lorenzo.  Those boot times were better than normal boot times but not by a lot.

I may have been unclear in that data as to the fact that the times shown are when that particular item was over and not when it began.

  1. The answer to your second item is also in that table of data. It is interesting that the second half or, TP+, of the ThinkPad screen boot up time was cut in half.  I removed those HDs early on in the troubleshooting so I may want to do that again and see now but based on all I’ve done without noticeable change I doubt it will be better.
  2. Reinserting HDD everything returned to “normal” slow
  3. I reseated the DIMMS and the wireless card today and there was no change for the better. Something of interest happened when I was doing the memory reseating.  When I booted the computer, it did not boot and the keyboard was just blinking.  I removed the battery and removed both DIMMs.  When I was replacing the DIMMS I noticed there was a paper sticker underneath the plastic just above one of the DIMM connectors on the computer and very close to the contacts.  This sticker was partially undone and was hanging down just a little.  I carefully reattached this sticker to the plastic so that it would have no chance to obstruct a connection and reinstalled the DIMM.  The computer booted.  I have run 32 gig in the past but due to heating, I removed 2 of the 8 gig DIMMS and have run 16 gig for a while now
  4. I have not reloaded BIOS defaults but I have moved all other possible startup entries in the BIOS “below the line” so to speak. Probably did the 4 days ago.

Another thing of interest is that this morning when I first booted the machine, it came up at a truly normal rate.  There was almost zero time between the ThinkPad screen showing and the “second” half of the ThinkPad screen showing and it just lasted a few seconds and the Window panes came up and soon thereafter it went to the screen where I get to the login.  It was a normal boot.  Something very similar to this happened 2 or 3 days ago.  Both times those are the only short boots for that day.  I wish I had a clue as to why.  The first time it happened I had run a comprehensive memory and HDD test the night before not long before shutting it off.  This second time I had installed an app to keep my Intel drivers up to date the evening before.  Don’t know if any of that has a bearing on the boot times but it does show there are still possibilities.  I’ve also been doing many other things:)

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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-26, 1:43 AM

Hello,


Have you checked the hard disk drive for errors using the diagnostics from its manufacturer?

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 



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Re:Why is my W541 boot up ThinkPad Screen is taking over a minute to disappear

2021-07-26, 5:09 AM

Thank you for the reply Goretsky.

 

I have not but will. 

 

All of this has made me willing to to at least entertain the thought of starting from scratch and reinstalling Windows on another HDD.

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