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Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-13, 21:43 PM

 

Once again, it's 2020, why is there only two drive slots available in the P17? First we have no 17' 4K touch screen availability, now this. Who on Earth is making these ridiculous decisions?

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Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-14, 4:52 AM
It is a shame, but the newer models are supposed to be better at cooling everything. I was kind of tempted by the p17 for the higher wattage Quadro card and cooling improvements, but it would need at least 3 m2 slots for me to swap from the p53.
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Re:Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-14, 18:58 PM

Thinkpads P-series never had 17" touchscreen option (and competing mobile worksations from HP/Dell s don't offer it either).

 

The SATA bay loss is quite annoying indeed though, especially considering that the laptop didn't get any smaller or lighter from P73. Supposedly improved cooling would be nice, but I'd rather have an extra disk than swappable GPU on a separate board.  

 

 

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Re:Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-20, 22:17 PM

I made a similar post recently and a reply advised waiting until the release date to know for sure, but I don't see why Lenovo would deliberately understate the specs - pre-release specs can make or break a product release.

 

Coming from a P71 with an extra SATA drive in the ODD bay, I need 6TB storage minimum and Lenovo also say 4TB max M.2 storage. That means the slots will likely be too shallow to accept double sided cards. If the P17 really has no SATA bays then the 4TB limit will be a physical limit until single-sided 4TB M.2 drives are developed, probably 5 years away if ever!

 

Not sure if we can mention other brands here but Dell make 17" laptops with  FOUR  M.2 bays, i9 CPUs and RTX graphics. They are more expensive but for me it's worth the money. The irony is I have always had Lenovo laptops and I wouldn't have even looked at the Dell and HP websites before I read the P17 spec sheet!

 

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Re:Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-28, 18:14 PM

Dell does indeed offer a 17" touch screen, as well as NO numeric keypad. It's also packing some respectable internals.

https://www.dell.com/en-ca/work/shop/laptops-ultrabooks/new-xps-17-laptop/spd/xps-17-9700-laptop/ctox17w10p1c2500ca
 

 

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Re:Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-28, 20:58 PM

Comparable Dell is Precision 7750 Mobile Workstation , not consumer-oriented XPS series. 

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Re:Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-29, 21:21 PM

A bit of a bummer but what are they going to use that space that was taken by the SATA disk for ?

Improved cooling ?

There must be a reason it has been removed...

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Re:Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-29, 22:14 PM

Depending on the source, it has 30-40% better cooling than P73 but it's not clear if that is bigger heatpipes or fans or just better airflow. Whatever it is, I can't see how that translates to no space for even one SATA bay. It's not just the one bay they have gained space, the DVD tray has also been removed since the P71.

 

HP do a 17" ZBook with equivalent CPU / GPU options, but with 3x M.2 bays, 1x SATA and a DVD burner or 2nd SATA. So it is possible to pack it in a case that size.

 

The day the P17 is available I'll either be buying one or a ZBook, and it ALL hinges on the number of drive bays.

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Re:Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-07-30, 14:26 PM

When the 2nd SATA/DVD bay was gone, the volume of the laptop has dropped significantly (P73 is quite a bit smaller than P70, even if weight is similar).

 

I suspect the issue is that the motherboard split into two boards with extra connectors, air gaps etc. results in larger total volume.

 

Also, from Lenovo's perspective, I doubt many customers actually purchased P72/P73 with the SATA bay populated, so it might have seemed (and may be true) that the majority of customers are fine with 2-4TB local storage, and would rather take improved performance/more GPU choices over SATA bay. 

 

Still, would have been nice to see at least a third PCIe slot, they don't really take all that much space.

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Re:Why only Two Drive Slots in the P17?

2020-08-03, 1:08 AM

I wish they would get rid of the num. keypad.

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