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IrwinMFletcher
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Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71

In a base configuration without any devices in the two M.2 slots, do they come with screws and any thermal protection?

 

Some laptops I've seen come with 'covers' for the M.2 slots that are made of what looks to be copper - beneath the plastic - presumably to aid in heat dissipation.  

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Re: Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71

You'll need this kit to install drives. 

ThinkPad Mobile Workstation Storage Kit

Part number: 4XB0L63274

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Re: Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71

That looks like a kit to install an HDD - perhaps in the optical drive bay.  I'm talking about the two M.2 slots.

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Re: Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71

Can't speak specifically to the P71, but if the same base as the P70, it does not come with any thermal pads or heat sinks for the M.2 drives.  Mine came with one NVMe SSD installed; I added another Lenovo OEM SSD; installation instructions didn't include and reference to thermal pads, heat spreaders or grease..  Neither slot had any specific provision for heat dissipation and I haven't noticed any need -- it appears that there is adequate airflow and cooling to accommodate two drives.

 

The P70 Hardware Reference guide does mention thermal pads but there is no part number or specific instructions provided for using them, other than to place on (or below, don't remember) the M.2 devices.

 

So, it seems like we are on our own, on this point.  Lenovo, can you please confirm that heat spreaders/thermal pads or grease are not required?

 

 

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Re: Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71

Dell's NVMe slots.  Maybe / hopefully Lenovo's airflow is sufficient enough that they don't need to do this.  

 

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You don't need thermal pads in the P71. 
You do need isolation underneath the NVMe drive, which is included in the mobile storage kit. 
To install a 2.5 drive in the optical drive you need the ODD kit, which is a totally different kit.
You could save the 15 dollars and just use some double sided tape to avoid shorting out the NVMe drives. 

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Re: Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71

Odd the documentation for the P71 doesn't say anything about needing a kit to install M.2 drives.  Maybe they changed up the P71.  The manual illustrates and calls for opening the "film" and leaving it open.  Plop in the M.2 and screw it down.  That's it.

 

I found this contraption...

 

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Drive-Bay-Adapter-Internal/dp/B01ALBIFA4 

 

Seems this is meant for the P50 and recommended by owners but not Lenovo.  Seems kind of 'thick'.  I suppose the "bay" for the M.2 must be deep enough to acommodate this.  

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Re: Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71

Guess I'll wait for the P51/71 video to see if anything has changed.  Dumbest decision ever to design the slot such that it 'almost' needs that - but will technically work without it.  As though they added it as the last minute to the design.  Then designed this "adapter" for a snug fit.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcdm42JdZxI

 

http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories/memory-and-storage/memory/HDD-BO-M-2-SATA-SSD-tray/p/4XB0L7...

 

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Re: Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71

Well as a P71 owner, with all four drive bays filled, I can say, that techinically you do not need the kits. The drive bay for the P71 is designed with foam "bumpers" that keep the drive in there snug, however, I bought the kit anyways, since from the factory, that bay would have had the drive adaptor, assuring the drive did not move. All OEM configurations that come with the 2.5 drive preinstalled, have the drive adaptor. Which serves as a way of safely removing the drive, without risking damage to the sata port connectors.

As far as the sticky foam that's used in the NVMe drive bays, I've not removed the drives my unit came with. The Samsung 1TB drives that Lenovo provides perform extremely well. 

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Re: Adding M.2 NVMe to a p71


@IrwinMFletcher wrote:

Guess I'll wait for the P51/71 video to see if anything has changed.  Dumbest decision ever to design the slot such that it 'almost' needs that - but will technically work without it.  As though they added it as the last minute to the design.  Then designed this "adapter" for a snug fit.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcdm42JdZxI

 

http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories/memory-and-storage/memory/HDD-BO-M-2-SATA-SSD-tray/p/4XB0L7...

 


The video you linked to is for a P50, not a P70/P71.  They are different inside, and the installation of drives is very different.

 

The P70 (which I have) simply has two M.2 bays with a tightening screw pre-installed into each blank bay, should you want to install a drive.  No mounting kit or tray or anything else is required, as it is with the P50.  You just push in the male connector on the card to the female socket in the end of the bay, push down the other end of the card, and tighten the screw to hold down that end.

 

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