el 10-16-2011 09:59 AM
el 10-16-2011 03:12 PM
Growly wrote:A modem might be a trivial thing, but it's really the straw that broke the camel's back.
What are you using the modem for?
10-16-2011 11:44 PM - editado 10-16-2011 11:44 PM
ThorsHammer wrote:What are you using the modem for?
I have a PABX at home. Sometimes I like to dial into myself from myself.
But really, I don't like it when manufacturers pull features out of my tools for no good reason without telling anyone. It's underhanded. I don't care if modems are unused by the majority of the population - they even left the bloody RJ11 port there with a plate on it. When I spend this much money on a laptop I like knowing it's well-equipped for anything I might want it to do. Leave it for the next revision, or offer it as an option. Argh!
el 10-16-2011 11:48 PM
My W520 has a modem I'll never use.
el 10-17-2011 01:15 AM
Hi ZipZap
I see. ![]()
Same, my W520, 4284-A99 has a built-in modem too. It could be useful if you need to connect / remote back to office and your current location does not have DSL or broadband. Therefore, manufacturers still retain modem for some of the machines, especially for business machines. Most likely they would still include modems for some submodels for their next release.
Cheers 
Peter
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10-24-2011 05:21 PM - editado 10-25-2011 12:56 AM
First of all, I'm sorry for polluting the forum with yet another voice of discontent. I'm only doing this because because I have some faith in Lenovo. My loyalty to ThinkPads has brought me this far not to simply have me return the unit and wash my hands of the affair. I want a resolution.
I posted about this at the time, but two weeks ago I received a new W520 without an internal modem. I wanted the modem. This thread is not about the fact that I want a modem or why I might possibly have need for one; it is about the fact that no one I got in touch with really cared to actually help me out. (I had expected the part because it was listed as a feature of the model I purchased (specifically type 4270) in the tabook.pdf. Lenovo's business decision to remove the modems from these machines half way through selling them was not mentioned anywhere in the sales process. I call this blatant misrepresentation. I only found out that it didn't include the modem once I'd paid for it and received it.)
But I have now made countless calls to the numbers Lenovo lists on its US site, and not one person I talk to can help me either get a modem or have my complaint listened to. I have taken names at every opportunity for a shred of accountability but it does not help. In the end I just started asking for the customer service/relations number directly, but none of the helpdesk staff would give it to me. Apparently there's "no such thing". Finally I got so frustrated with the lack of any real customer service that I had to hang up on the last guy.
I was told that I couldn't buy a modem. I was told that no models include the modems anymore, when they clearly do. One manager ("Pasha") told me that my machine was upgradeable and that I could in fact buy the part, at additional cost. But I couldn't; I called technical support, got the part number, and when I called Sales back they said they "didn't carry it". Pasha also told me that technical support was customer support, but the tehcnical support man with whom I spoke said there was, again, "no such thing".
The helpdesk operators were indifference to my case. They didn't really care that I wanted to give them business. They didn't really care that I was actively seeking to help Lenovo improve. The story is quite long, so I'll stop there, but essentially no one I called at Lenovo could help me or even cared to help me beyond the "scope" of their immediate job description. They couldn't even redirect me. They were quick to absolve themselves of blame. They didn't even want to try. All they have are their flowcharts to direct customer queries - and it's disgustingly poor service.
But, now that I think about it, I'm actually going to send this W520 back. Maybe ThinkPads have finally lost their charm for me: when you spend a lot of money on a high-end product, you shouldn't be fighting to give your money away. You should be relishing in the quality of your purchase. I don't think any other luxury good maker takes this approach.
What I want to know is: who is it at Lenovo that cares about its customers? Where are the PR teams, the customer relations teams? What kind of company hires and trains frontline staff to present to its most loyal customers such a disjoint, inconsistent and totally irresponsible face? Or is Lenovo now the archetypal corporate behemoth whose customers are but a nuisance to humoured only until they part with their cash?
I'm genuinely sad... indignant, even.
el 10-24-2011 08:09 PM
Hi, Growly,
Boy, this is the second thread you started on this matter. You must be upset.
If you really need a modem, you can get an external one for $14 from Sewell. My W520 shipped with an internal one (4276-37U) and it's still spec'd that way.
Has the modem in fact been deleted, and who really cares? The W520 is a high end machine, so I'm guessing that very few users indeed are interested in this obsolete inclusion.
Please enlighten me. What pratical purpose does the internal modem serve for you? If you really need it, I will pull the modem out of my machine and ship it to you. ![]()
best, ZZ
10-24-2011 08:57 PM - editado 10-24-2011 09:16 PM
Growly:
I'm with ZipZap on this one - you've already made one post here in the forum about wanting a modem, and with this second post, it looks like all you want to do is rant. That might make you feel good, but it's of no interest at all to the rest of us here in the forum. Check out ZipZap's link (above) to the $14 USB modem.
If you really want an internal modem, order the part and install the darn thing. The FRU (Field Replacable Unit) part number is 60Y3207, there's a bunch of them listed on eBay for about $30. Then go download the free Hardware Maintenance Manual, that contains instructions explaining how to install the part.
Or, for an even faster and easier fix, go buy an ExpressCard modem, stuff that in the slot on the side of the computer, and that will give you all the functionality you want.
If price is a concern, you can probably find a modem at any garage sale in your neighborhood for less than $5.
Finally, you could try doing a search here in the forum for prior discussions about missing modems on the W520, and if you spent half as much time on your search as you did writing your post, you might have found this post, where one of the Lenovo staffers has offered to find a solution for forum members with exactly the problem you are complaining about: W520 missing modem.
You can solve your own problem in a lot less time than it is currently taking you to post rants about it here in the forum.
Michael
10-24-2011 09:20 PM - editado 10-24-2011 09:25 PM
I'm sorry, I should've been more clear. I don't really care about the modem. If that was the only problem I would've given up a long time ago. I'm well aware of the options in this regard: they are irrelevant.
My problem is with Lenovo's customer service, or lack thereof. My problem is with how little help I seem to be able to get by calling Lenovo's call centres. My problem is that I can't seem to find anyone in the entire organisation who is interested in making sure that their customers get what they want.
It is a rant. But so what? I have to listen to automated messages telling me that Lenovo supposedly cares for me as a customer, wants to provide me with a "do machine", and a variety of other marketing nonsense that simply does not translate into reality.
I'm doing this for Lenovo's sake.
But I'm not naive; Lenovo is a large corporation by any measure. I know several people are being paid handsomely to make sure that they're providing a service that people value. Those very people ought to have phone numbers.
Or does Lenovo really not want to hear any of it, because it stemmed from something so trivial as a modem?
I hope this clarification causes you to at least rethink your dismissals. I'm actually distraught that no one else seems to value customer satisfaction.
10-25-2011 12:38 AM - editado 10-25-2011 12:55 AM
I disagree with the merger of my new post with the old one. For the third time now, they are about different topics. My recent post is about customer service. I'm sorry I mentioned the seminal cause, which is now irrelevant. I was asking the community if it knew a way to get help from Lenovo that didn't involve one of their cyclic call centre flowcharts. Merging the posts will only dismiss my issue in exactly the same way.
If you read my original post as if I'm whining or throwing a tantrum, then of course nothing I've said since will make sense. Such is the nature of assumption and mental framing. But I genuinely wanted to get in touch with someone at Lenovo who would be willing to listen. I genuinely wanted help.
I'll just go quietly. Thanks in advance to anyone who sees this (now that it's much less visible) and still responds: I appreciate it.