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brhams
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Lenovo w530 Upgrade to w540 is worth ?!?

Hello Guys! in this topic i want to see your opinion and advice about upgrading a Lenovo laptop!

Some years past by this models so maybe you can give me the right solution

 

So right now i have/use a Lenovo W530 I7/3740qm/6mbcache/2.70GHZ/Turbo Boost 3.70GHz, video nVidia quadro k2000m with some ssd including msata Hynix 920 256gb

 

The new laptop i found is a w540  i7 4810 mq/6mb cache/2.80 GHz/Turbo Boost 3.80 GHz ,video nVidia quadro k2100m

 

the memory are the same i mean the W530 have 16gb samsung 12800 and the W540 have 8gb in one slot ,but i will must buy some more

 

the storage : in the w530 i have 3 ssd / 1 main bay >samsung 850Pro 256gb with OS and partition / msata Hynix sh920 256 gb (storage) in ultrabay  i have a samsung 860pro 512gb/storage

 

Should i buy this w540 ? what to be aware from ?!?

 

the only think i dislike when i am upgrading from w520 to w530 is the missing option to go back to the previous internet page with the arrow left/right key if you know what i mean

 

The w540 i think does not suport msata, so what type of ssd shoud i buy?!? Do you know if Samsung 960pro it will fit and work properly?!

 

Thanks a lot in advance !!!

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Re: Lenovo w530 Upgrade to w540 is worth ?!?

As I recall the W540 contains an extremely significant BIOS change regarding graphics.

 

The "discrete graphics" configuration option present for the W530 allowed you to make 100% use of the nVidia GPU, with "Optimus mode" being the alternative option (i.e. the machine-determined combination of primarily built-in Intel HD Graphics unless high-power graphics performance is needed in which nVidia GPU is kicked in selectively for that program).  If you select "discrete graphics" then effectively the Intel HD Graphics GPU is conceptually disappeared from the hardware and only the nVidia graphics is used 100% of the time, both for laptop screen as well as for external monitors.

 

With W540 this "discrete graphics" option no longer exists in the BIOS.  You are FORCED to utilize Optimus mode, which is mostly Intel HD Graphics (to save battery power) with nVidia GPU only as needed.

 

Yes, nVidia graphics uses more electrical power (and thus has more drain on battery if you are running in portable mode) but if you're plugged into wall power why should you care?  You want to get the maximum benefit of the nVidia performance that you paid lots of money for, so why shouldn't it be available 100% if that's what you want?

 

Complaints about this "extreme design deficiency" persisted for both W540 and W541, causing many lost sales I'm sure.  Finally with the P50/P70 Lenovo did concede to their users' requests and brought back "discrete graphics" option in the BIOS.  It should never have been removed for the W540/W541.

 

So it's up to you, if graphics performance is important.  I still have and use my own W530 with K1000m graphics, and have used "discrete graphics" option in the BIOS ever since I bought the machine in 2013.  I never upgraded to a W540/W541.  Finally in 2016 I bought a P70 with M3000M graphics, specifically because of the re-availability of "discrete graphics" in the BIOS.

 

Up to you.

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Re: Lenovo w530 Upgrade to w540 is worth ?!?

I don't think you will get a big performance jump with such an upgrade. If I were you I would rather go to a P-Series, that was much a bigger leap in power and architecture.

 


@brhams wrote:

The w540 i think does not suport msata


It supports M.2 SDDs, but only the 42mm lenght type, with less available models (compared to 80mm ones)

 


@brhams wrote:

the only think i dislike when i am upgrading from w520 to w530 is the missing option to go back to the previous internet page with the arrow left/right key if you know what i mean 

 


You can still retrofit a xx20 keyboard in a xx30 machine, but you need to mod the BIOS and do some keyboard modifications, I have such a W530 and I love it!

 

The dedicated graphics issue was well explained above, which could also be a disadvantage for you. Last but not least, the touchpad of the W540 is the (in)famous one with no physical buttons. You may not like that either...

 

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Re: Lenovo w530 Upgrade to w540 is worth ?!?

"Worth it"?  

 

It depends on what your bottleneck is and what you need to improve.  There is not much of an increase in performance from the third generation core i7 CPUs (w530) all the way through the 7th gen (P51), so if you need faster CPU, it isn't much of a boost.  I have not seen or tested tested an 8th gen mobile workstation (P52, P72) so I cannot comment, but the other 8th gen processors are MUCH faster than 7th gen.  If Memory is your bottleneck, P50/P70 can both take 16GB DIMMs yielding a 64GB maximum (vs. 32GB max in W530/W540).  Graphics processors got better at every generation.


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Re: Lenovo w530 Upgrade to w540 is worth ?!?

thanks for your answer guys ! I remember i have read too the bul**bleep** with the bios discrete graphics and indeed it sucks a lot!

How can i see at a certain time wich graphic card i use ?! the change between those 2 are smooth or is noticeable?!

Onestly i am a litle bit dissapointed about the w540 afther i read your comments,but if i wiil buy-it i will let some comments here!

On the other hand the p51 is a dream wich righ now exceed my posibility !

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Edit: Double post...

 

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Re: Lenovo w530 Upgrade to w540 is worth ?!?

Besides the graphics issue, most likely related to a thermal issue, the W530 is a real workstation, the W540 is totally dumbed down.  Just check the topics in the forum. The W541 is a feeble attemp to remedy the PROBLEM, but still major design flaws (see comment on the forum). 

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Re: Lenovo w530 Upgrade to w540 is worth ?!?

No. I owned one and regretted the purchase. I would rather see if I could find a ThinkPad P50 if I were you.

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