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mtissington
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New P50 or W530

Anyone have a comparrison between a 4 year old W530 with 32GB of memory and SSD drives and the latest P50

 

Thoughts?

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Re: New P50 or W530

More of a context would help.  What kinds of things would you be using it for?  What are you using now?  Why are you replacing it?  Running windows?  What version? 


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Re: New P50 or W530

Without some type of context, you basically summed it up yourself with 4 year old pc vs new pc. 

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Re: New P50 or W530

P50 is faster, lighter, and has a better screen (including 4K), can get with 64GB RAM or configure with NVMe. Keyboard is slightly improved compared to W530, there is a numpad, and a better fingerprint reader.

 

W530: the only plus side in comparison is that can insert 1 extra 2.5" SSD drive into it. 

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Re: New P50 or W530

Let's  not forget about an easy to configure ultrabay which can contain a DVW-RW or another HDD/SDD on the W530.


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Re: New P50 or W530

Do I understand correctly that I can only have a single ssd or hard drive in the P50? What happened to the ultra bay slot?

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Re: New P50 or W530

No, you can have up to 3 ssd's in the system (2 x M.2, 1 2.5" HDD or SSD.There is no ultrabay or DVD-rw in the system.


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Message 8 of 11

Re: New P50 or W530

p50 has 2x 2.5" bays. You can have 2x 2.5" 7mm sata drives (bassically ssd - spinners are usually 9mm). One of the bays can hold 2x nvme drives instead of a sata drive. Up to 3 total, 2x nvme and 1x sata. 

 

I run mine with 2 950 pro (nvme) and 1 850 pro (sata).

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Message 9 of 11

Re: New P50 or W530

Hello,

 

I am in the process of migrating from a W530 with 32GB of RAM to a P50 with 32GB of RAM.  A few observations:

 

  • The NVMe SSD in the P50 (512GB Samsung 950 PRO) seems to be faster than the mSATA SSD (1TB Samsung 850 EVO) in the W530. 
  • The UHD screen in the P50 is crisper than the FHD.  Not surprising, given the higher resolution.
  • No differences noted with the ExpressCard or Smart Card interfaces so far.
  • For Wi-Fi, W530 has 802.11n (450Mb/s max), while P50 has 802.11ac (867Mb/s max).  I haven't noticed any real-world difference, though, due to relative scarcity of 802.11ac access points.
  • The keyboard in the P50 is offset from the center of the screen due to the addition of the number pad.
  • No Ultrabay in the P50.
  • Maximum SSD capacity on the W530 is currently 9TB (1TB mSATA, 2×4TB 2.5" SATA SSDs)¹, no internal optical drive is available in this configuration.
  • Maximum SSD capacity on the P50 is currently 8TB (2×4TB 2.5" SATA SSDs) no M.2 2280 slots available in this configuration.
  • The W530 TrackPad has 5 buttons around it; 3 on top, 2 below.  The P50 TrackPad has 6 buttons around it; 3 on top, 3 below.

If I were looking at the two machines right now, I'd go with the P50 simply because of the age of the W530; while my W530 works just fine, it's also four year old technology, and I do like to refresh my laptop every few years.  RIght now, the biggest issue I have is the lack of affordable 2-4TB SSDs on the market.  Hopefully the big price premium for them over 1TB SSDs will change over the next 12-24 months.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 

¹From looking at this review, it appears the 2TB Samsung Portable SSD T3 uses a 2TB mSATA SSD in it, so if you're willing to buy one, cannibalize it, and put it into your W530, that could bring you to 10TB total.



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Re: New P50 or W530


@goretsky wrote:

Hello,

 

I am in the process of migrating from a W530 with 32GB of RAM to a P50 with 32GB of RAM.  A few observations:

 

  • The NVMe SSD in the P50 (512GB Samsung 950 PRO) seems to be faster than the mSATA SSD (1TB Samsung 850 EVO) in the W530. 

The P50/P70 have been configured with the SM951 from the factory in the past. Is the Samsung 950 now being installed in its place? No surprise that any NVMe-PCIe SSD will be faster then the SATA3 configurations. Also, the mSata channel configuration in the W530 was SATA2 so that also would account for the perceived and real difference in speed.


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P1. BIOS 1.22,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID 1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD

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