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Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 3:46 AM

Asked this a while back but didn't get reply.

 

 

Long story short, I'm seeking information for RTX 5000 GPU in P-series ThinkPad

 

A simple test, just open up GPU-Z (https://www.techpowerup.com/download/techpowerup-gpu-z/) and tell us what the video memory brand is, post a screenshot please.

 

Usually it would show up like this (example on a Lenovo ThinkStation GPU): https://i.imgur.com/5aN17lc.png

 

 

Also if you could open up your "advanced" -> "general" and  "advanced" -> "nvidia bios" tab and expand the window, please give us the screenshot. It would be a massive help!

 

Example "advanced" -> "general" : https://i.imgur.com/08a1fvo.png 

 

Example "advanced" -> "nvidia bios":  https://i.imgur.com/yrwH8HZ.png

 

 

 

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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 4:12 AM

Just because one machine had memory made by one company, you cannot assume that all similar machines would be the same.  Chips like BIOS chipe and soldered memory often can come from multiple suppliers.


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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 5:28 AM

@richk

 

I'm just checking if people get different video memory GDDR6 suppliers. Currently there's Micron/Samsung/Hynix.

 

 

 

"Advanced" -> "nvidia bios" tab and expand the window, please give us the screenshot.

 

This section lists all the possible memory brands that a particular GPU can come with.

 

Example "advanced" -> "nvidia bios":  https://i.imgur.com/yrwH8HZ.png

 

 

 

 

OOT:

 

SAMSUNG GDDR6 stands above and beyond all other trash-tier manufacturer like Hynix and Micron.

 

On a 2080Ti, it would hit +1000 overclock at the very least. Most people report that +1200 is the norm. SAMSUNG GDDR6 is also more resistant to high temperatures, meaning it can overclock particularly well without exotic memory cooling solutions (ie: waterblock).

 

Micron cards barely hit +750, and most of the time will overclock MUCH worse due to negatively scaling with high temperatures. Hynix I assume is just as bad or even worse.

 

I had to RMA my 2080Ti a few times while being adamant and strong that I am not willing to accept a Micron or Hynix VRAM card.

 

In the end, I received a 2080Ti with Samsung memory. It overclocks very nicely with positive performance scaling all the way up to +1400MHz memory. And I am running a daily overclock of +1250MHz.

 

My previous Micron card could not hit +350 stable, +300 was the limit on memory overclock.

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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 5:30 AM


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.23 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 96GB RAM, RTX5000, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, 1TB PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.35, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.25,Xeon Processor, 4k UHD IPS multi-touch display, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID1

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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 5:35 AM

@harrisb

 

Thanks for the information!

 

One more thing, if you could open up your "advanced" -> "general" and  "advanced" -> "nvidia bios"  tab and expand the window, please give us the screenshot.

 

Example "advanced" -> "general" : https://i.imgur.com/08a1fvo.png 

 

Example "advanced" -> "nvidia bios":  https://i.imgur.com/yrwH8HZ.png

 

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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 5:44 AM

This is all that I could see. The are now other tabs when selecting Advanced.

 


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.23 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 96GB RAM, RTX5000, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, 1TB PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.35, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 5:47 AM

Found it!

 


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.23 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 96GB RAM, RTX5000, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, 1TB PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.35, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 6:33 AM

@harrisb

 

Thanks a lot for the information!

 

So that means there's other vendors in play, just gotta see if there's an RTX 5000 user with different video memory brand.

 

 

By the way, are you able to change core or memory clocks using MSi Afterburner? https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html

 

For example, if you change memory and/or core by +25 and run a benchmark or rendering project. Does the actual memory clock increase with the corresponding overclock?

 

Sorry and thank you in advance for all the questions!

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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 8:48 AM

You wont be able to change clocks of the gpu or the memory they are bios locked at the moment. Not sure why would you be doing this as they are quadro cards and not design for overclocking. If you want to overclock your laptop I would suggest looking at something else. As of the question of memory my rtx 4000 (I know the question ask for rtx 5000 but its good to see what is the common memory brand on for lenovo) on p53 comes with samsung gddr6 memory, so I think samsung is their main supplier.

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Re: Simple question on P53 / P73 with RTX 5000 GPU

2019-10-12, 15:24 PM

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You wont be able to change clocks of the gpu or the memory they are bios locked at the moment. Not sure why would you be doing this as they are quadro cards and not design for overclocking. If you want to overclock your laptop I would suggest looking at something else. As of the question of memory my rtx 4000 (I know the question ask for rtx 5000 but its good to see what is the common memory brand on for lenovo) on p53 comes with samsung gddr6 memory, so I think samsung is their main supplier.


 

The overclock is just to test if the GPU can be manipulated using MSi AB or other third party tools.

 

Ideally you can use the voltage curve to lock the GPU maximum operating voltage to a lower one, reducing power draw allows the card to run much cooler while taking an insignificant hit in performance.

 

For example, instead of running this 2080Ti at 1.03-1.04v stock performance curve as defined by nvidia, it's running locked at 0.9v maximum operating voltage which reduces power draw by around 60-85w on average in workloads.

 

https://i.imgur.com/ccfx6WG.png

 

 

The objective is not to overclock, but to undervolt and get similar performance whilst reducing power draw!

 

 

 

 

 

Also if you could open up your "advanced" -> "general" and  "advanced" -> "nvidia bios" tab and expand the window, please give us the screenshot. It would be a massive help!

 

 

How to open the "advanced" tab: https://i.imgur.com/DCqshE0.png

 

Example "advanced" -> "general" : https://i.imgur.com/08a1fvo.png 

 

Example "advanced" -> "nvidia bios":  https://i.imgur.com/yrwH8HZ.png

 

 

 

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