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jspears1966
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W520 and Windows 10

I have a W520 with a quadro 1000M.  In January, a Windows 10 update of some type played havoc with my graphics drivers.  I have been fighting wth mostly no success since then to make things work. My current windows version is Windows 10 Pro (1709) (OS Build 16299.309).

 

Is anyone currently running Windows 10 at this build level?  If so, what are the source and version number of your drivers.  I have tried many versions of drivers from Lenovo, Intel, Invidia and Microsoft. I have used DDU to clean out before installing.  I have, as of yet, not found a solution that is reliable.  

 

Thank you in advance for your information.

 

 

Kevinwish
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Re: W520 and Windows 10

Hi!

 

I tried windows 10, and decide to go back to windows 8.1

 

You could get nvidia driver by this link from nvidia:http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

 

The one thing I found out from windows 10 is that the performance of 1000m is lower compare to windows 8.1. The GPU is never fully utilized except when you have 2 displays with external display enabled only. I was trying to find the solution for this problem and I found your post lol. The driver lenovo provided for quadro 1000m could not be installed since the newer version on lenovo is no longer supported.

 

If you need more drivers to try please try this link: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?QNF=1

michmerr
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Re: W520 and Windows 10

The short answer is that there are issues with Windows 10 1709 and a lot of the older Quadro CPUs, and there is no indication that these issues will be fixed.

 

Here's an NVidia forum thread where owners of several different laptops report the same issue: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1032463/geforce-drivers/windows-10-64bit-creators-update-in...

 

The forum thread contains a workaround in which you force the use of the integrated Intel GPU graphics in the Nvidia Control Panel under Manage 3D settings. I'm doing this on a per application basis to get Slack and Visual Studio Code working. I haven't tried doing it on a global scale or for any 3D-intensive applications.

 

Here's a link to the announcement that Nvidia has dropped support for the Quadro 2000M GPU used in the W520: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3473

 

 

Trying to install the latest Nvidia driver will fail because it does not support the 2000M, and it's been six months since the 1709 update, so I am not hopeful that a driver fix will be issued. For users who can't find these obscure workarounds (it took me weeks), the now-forced update to Windows 10 1709 will seriously impact affected users.

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Re: W520 and Windows 10

Yeah for some reason NVIDIA has the 39x.xx drivers marked as compatible on the driver searcher. The drivers have dropped support for Fermi-based cards AFAIK; modding the INF doesn't seem to work for me.

The latest release of drivers I found that work for the Quadro 2000M (and ostensibly the 1000M) are the dev drivers here:
https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
X200s: SL9400, 6GB RAM, 64GB SD card, WXGA+ screen
TPT1: 1839-23U
michmerr
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Re: W520 and Windows 10

When you say that the dev drivers work, do you mean that they work under Windows 1709 without the rendering issues seen in some apps, or just that the drivers package installs?

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Re: W520 and Windows 10

Just that the package installs, though I'm under Windows 7. It was meant as a comment about the latest NVIDIA driver not supporting the 2000M.

I'd try it on your system to see if it alleviates the issues you're reporting, but there are no guarantees.

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
X200s: SL9400, 6GB RAM, 64GB SD card, WXGA+ screen
TPT1: 1839-23U
denial
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Re: W520 with nVidia Quadro 2000M and Windows 10 1809

Hello,

 

could anyone confirm if W520 with Quadro 2000M is in any way working on Win10 build 1809 or this is completely unsupported and unusable?

 

Thanks.

 

skywalkr
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Re: W520 with nVidia Quadro 2000M and Windows 10 1809

Not supported past 385.90 per my last Windows 10 W520 install. NVidia quietly removed support for the 1000/2000M a while back from it's standard driver deliveries.  You can, the tool tells you to get the latest driver and it does not work. Seems' the tooling is not talking to the development teams.  I spent a few hours one day trying to figure it out until I read the readme.  I was not amused. 

 

 Per the readme, Beginning with the Release 378, the NVIDIA professional drivers no longer support the following NVIDIA Quadro products:
The NVIDIA support team will continue to address critical driver issues for these products in Release 375 through March 1, 2018. However, future driver enhancements and optimizations in driver releases after Release 375 will not support these products." The 1000/2000M are in that table with a bunch of others.  

FWIW, the last driver I successfully used was 385.90 on W520 with 1000/2000M.  I had no problems outta that driver for the past few years of using it.    Later. 

 

Douglas77
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Message 9 of 13

Re: W520 and Windows 10

I was wondering if windows 10 pro works with w520? I saw your comments and wanted to know if you found a workaround that works? Thanks Doug

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Re: W520 and Windows 10

Hello,

 

I do not believe Lenovo officially supports running Windows 10 on a ThinkPad W520, but what that simply means is that Lenovo is not able to assist you should you run into any issues.  The W520 is old enough (2011) that Windows 10 should have drivers for all of its hardware included on the installation media.  For any which are not, you may be able to download them through Windows Update, or by using the device drivers for Windows 8.1 from

 

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-w-series-laptops/thinkpad-...

 

as Windows 8.1 is the last operating system for the W520 that Lenovo released device drivers for, and those may work under Windows 10 as well.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 



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