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koson
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W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

Hoping there is a simple fix to this. My month-old W520 (i7 2720QM, 16GB, Intel 80GB mSATA, 500 GB Seagate installed) sits in a Mini Dock 3 Plus. There have been absolutely no problems booting in or out of the dock.

 

I recently installed a 2 TB RAID 1 box in the Mini Dock 3 Plus's eSATA port (Raidon 2-disk enclosure, 2x 2 TB Hitachi 5K3000.) It performs well (great speed, very reliable so far.) Everything was fine until I shut down and rebooted--then it hung at the Think screen. Removing the eSATA connection and rebooting led to a normal boot.

 

I can always take the W520 out of the dock to reboot, but this is a bit of a pain. Does anybody know a way to fix this?

 

Thanks for any pointers.

ThorsHammer
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Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

Are you running the latest Intel RST? http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/chpsts/imsm

 

 

 

 

Jimm98y
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Message 3 of 18

Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

There are similar issues with WD HDDs during boot, look at http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/W-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/W520-won-t-boot-when-docked-in-mini-dock/td-p/... Unfortunately, there is no solution at this moment. I'd like to know whether it was properly reported as an issue or at least if there is some progress in resolving it, but it seems the only thing we can do is hope it will be resolved in the next BIOS/UEFI release. By the way, do you use BIOS or UEFI? When I was using BIOS, the issue was exactly the same as you describe. Then I moved to UEFI and now it doesn't freeze on Think screen, but tries to load the OS and during that process it fails and reboots.

Lenovo ThinkPad W520 15.6" 1920x1080, UEFI 1.42, Intel Core i7-2820QM 2.3GHz, Intel HD3000 + nVidia Quadro 2000M 2GB, Kingston PNP 16GB (4x4GB) 1600MHz RAM, Crucial m4 040H 256GB SSD, Lenovo TP Drive Adapter UltraBay 12,7mm + WD Blue 1TB 5400rpm HDD, Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 AGN, Gobi 3000, Lenovo TP Port Mini Dock Plus Series 3, Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit
koson
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Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

Thank you for your thoughts.

 

@ThosHammer - The RAID provided by the enclosure--it appears to the W520 as a single drive, that is, from the W520's point of view there is no RAID. If I understand correctly, RST is for RAID setups that the W520 would manage.

 

@Jimm98y - I've got it set to both, with legacy priority.

 

 

ThorsHammer
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Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

The SATA controller connected to the eSATA port on the ThinkPad W5x0 series doesn't have multiplier capabilities.

8string
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Message 6 of 18

Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

Updating this older thread. I too cannot get my eSata ports to recognize my RAID1 drive that works fine on my desktop unit. 

To be clear: the RAID 1 is totally external, and built into the drive. I only have one SCSI cable from the drive to the W520. It works fine on my Dell XPS desktop with one eSata cable attached. 

 

I am running Windows 7 64 

I am running the 5/30/2012 11.2.0.1006 build of the Intel Mobile Express Chipset SATA ACHI Conroller.

I am running the Ricoh PCIe SDXC/MMC Host Controller

 

Is there some 'on off' to this?

It appears I am running the latest version of the Intel Software. 

 

Do I still need to install the RAID software driver that is mentioned above? 

Guru
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Message 7 of 18

Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

The chipset in the W520 can only enumerate 1 eSata disk drive. This is a restriction of the Intel chipset used for laptop computers. If advanced functionality such as a Port Multiplier is required, a PCI Express add-on card can be used. If it has port multiplier support, an eSATAp port allows a user to connect to a multi-bay NAS machine with multiple hard disks  using one eSATA cable.


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.15 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 32GB, RTX5000, 32GB, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.32, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.24,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD
8string
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Message 8 of 18

Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

I understand what you are saying but this doesn't make sense. I had a Samsung laptop (i7) that I got rid of because I hated the screen, and I plugged the exact same drive into it's esata port and it worked fine. I think something is wrong with the esata port on the w520 and am trying to find out if there is a fix. I can't believe that a single esata cable can not work, when this drive works on other esata ports on other computers, but not this one. 

 

No slam on you, I think the answer is not what you assume, is all.

Guru
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Message 9 of 18

Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

What was the configuration (model, CPU, etc) of the Samsung laptop? The W520 uses the Intel chipset to provide the eSata support. Perhaps the Samsung notebook was using a chipset for the eSata that was not the one native with Sandy Bridge.


P53 XEON 2276 BIOS 1.15 OLED UHD 4K Multi-touch display, 32GB, RTX5000, 32GB, RAID 1, 1TB x 2 Samsung PM981, WWAN
P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.32, 4k Display, 64GB, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID1 1TB Samsung PM981 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.24,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID1
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8string
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Message 10 of 18

Re: W520 won't boot with eSATA RAID disks attached to Mini Dock 3 Plus

Could be. The Samsung is long gone (since December). So what's the story? How do I make this eSata port recognize an eSata drive that works with other eSata ports on my desktop and others? Or should I just sell this W520 and buy a machine that does support eSata as I would expect it to support it? This is unacceptable and is why Apple  continues to gain share. My expectations are not being met! This port says esata, and it should support an esata drive. 

 

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