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w520user999
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Registered: ‎07-27-2011
Location: Canada
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mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

I returned a non-functioning Renice 120GB mSATA SSD and replaced it with the Runcore T50 6Gb/s mSATA 120GB SSD.  I wanted to share with the community:

 

1. I found the best way to install the drive was to use the factory install disks, rather than transfer a disk image (see #2 below)

 

2. The drive does not like Intel RapidStorage SATA LPM (Link State Power Managment), and this needed to be disabled for the mSATA port (port 2) in the Registry.  The PCI Power Managment setting in BIOS does not solve the problem.  The problem was a nasty 60 second stutter/freeze occuring predictably on Windows installation, boot, and at other unpredicatble times.  Applying the fix prior to any image transfer (Arconis, Windows Image Backup,etc) may be an easier way to go rather than to bear the freezing through a factory install, which I did.

 

3. I am still trying to set the boot order correctly.  All other boot devices must be deactivated in the BIOS boot priority list for this device to boot  (maybe 1.3 BIOS will help this, but my machine is not RAID-enabled).

 

4.  This drive is much quicker than an Intel 2nd Generation SSD in the main bay.  I dont think I will benchmark to compare- it is a definite practical improvement in speed (blazing really).

 

5.  HWINFO indicates that the mSATA port is operating at SATA III speeds, 6Gb/S !!!  (EDITED: Testing by wolfindersteppe reveals that W520 mSATA Operates at SATA II as other posters have suggested.  HWINFO must be reporting the speed capability of the DRIVE not the mSATA PORT speed.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

W520: UNSUPPORTED SYSTEM
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Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

I cloned my Intel mSATA 80GB SSD using Ghost 15!. Everything aligned properly and it was painless. The only thing that I had to do at the 1st startup was to remove the 500GB HDD so that Windows 7 didn't get confused. I replaced the 500GB HDD after the first shutdown. All my applications are on the SSD with 24.2 GB of free space. Not certain why I would want a larger SSD for my boot drive. The HDD is holding the original boot partition (unused, but there for backup), my data partition (D: ) and my music partition (M: ). Of course, the Lenovo recovery partition (Q: )  is still there as well.


P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.31, UHD 4k Display, 64GB non-ECC RAM, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID 1 512GB Samsung 951 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.23,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID 1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD
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Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

@w520user999

 

I do not believe that there is a SATA III port for the PCIe slot (only SATA II).  Perhaps HWINFO is reporting something else.


P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.31, UHD 4k Display, 64GB non-ECC RAM, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID 1 512GB Samsung 951 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.23,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID 1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD
wonger007
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Registered: ‎07-10-2011
Location: Maryland
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Message 4 of 12

Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

even if the laptop supports sataIII which i think it does, the msata drive needs to be able to handle SATAIII which to my knowledge... no one... SATAII is out there and the only company that might support FULL sataII is runcore with their pro V line

W520 (4270 CTO) | i7-2820QM | 16GB RAM 1333 MHz | Runcore MSATA SSD | 2x Kingston SATA2 SSD | Quadro 2000M | FHD | Windows 7
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Message 5 of 12

Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

There are 6 SATA ports available on the W520 ( 2 SATA III, 4 SATA II). One SATA III is in the primary HDD bay and the second is in the UltraBay. All the other ports are SATA II.


P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.31, UHD 4k Display, 64GB non-ECC RAM, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID 1 512GB Samsung 951 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.23,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID 1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD
wolfindersteppe
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Registered: ‎06-25-2011
Location: Vienna
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Message 6 of 12

Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

Dear W520user999, please, please run at least one benchmark with bench32 or AS SSD Benchmark or any other at your convenience and post it here - it would be extremely important for me - still awaiting my delivery Smiley Tongue

ThinkPad W520, i7-2820 CPU, 32GB RAM, NVidia Quadro 2000M 2GB GPU , mSATA Samsung Evo 840 1TB + 2x Samsung SSD EVO 840 1TB & Lenovo Helix i7 8GB RAM & ThinkPad W540, i7-4800MQ, 32 GB RAM, NVidia Quadro K1100M, OS on M.2 2242 Transcend MTS400 256GB + 2x Samsung SSD EVO 840 1TB
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Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

Here's a snapshot of my current Intel 80GB mSATA SSD. WEI Primary Hard Disk subscore = 7.6

 

Intel_mSATA.PNG


P70 XEON 1505, BIOS 2.31, UHD 4k Display, 64GB non-ECC RAM, M3000M NVIDIA GPU, RAID 1 512GB Samsung 951 PCIe-NVMe SSD x 2, 2x Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD. EM7455 WWAN
P1. BIOS 1.23,Xeon Processor, 32GB, PM981 1TB x 2, RAID 1
T470s, 16GB RAM, BIOS 1.10, i7-7500, WQHD display, 512GB PM961 PCIe NVMe SSD
w520user999
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Registered: ‎07-27-2011
Location: Canada
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Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

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W520: UNSUPPORTED SYSTEM
wolfindersteppe
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Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

W520user999, thank you very much for your time and reporting! You just confirm the wide spead opinion that the Canadians are really nice and pleasant folkSmiley Very Happy.

ThinkPad W520, i7-2820 CPU, 32GB RAM, NVidia Quadro 2000M 2GB GPU , mSATA Samsung Evo 840 1TB + 2x Samsung SSD EVO 840 1TB & Lenovo Helix i7 8GB RAM & ThinkPad W540, i7-4800MQ, 32 GB RAM, NVidia Quadro K1100M, OS on M.2 2242 Transcend MTS400 256GB + 2x Samsung SSD EVO 840 1TB
crispin
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Message 10 of 12

Re: mSATA SSD Success! (and info)

Any chance you can do a crystaldiskmark on it w520user999  I'd be interested to know what max speed the mini pcie port supports before I buy one.

 

thanks!

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