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2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-06-04, 14:41 PM

I have a Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga, with a 256GB SSD and an i5 processor.

 

I received it on April 29. After two weeks of normal use, it crashed and gave this error:

“2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)”

I could not get it to boot. I took it to a computer repair shop and they (Lenovo warrantee) replaced the SSD. It worked for about a week, then crashed again, same error. My tech guy said that it might be a bad board, frying hard drives; but Lenovo insisted on replacing the hard drive again. Ten days later, same crash. I unplugged it and put it on a shelf for the weekend, intending to take it back to the shop. Monday morning I plugged it in and it started up normally.

 

It has been working normally for three days, but I am worried about getting the same error and crash. Can you tell me what might be happening, and if there is anything I can do to prevent a recurrence?

 

This seems to be a common problem across many machine models, but I haven't found any solutions to it.

 

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-06-04, 14:54 PM
The connector or the data controller board could be shortcurcuiting the ssd.
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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-06-04, 15:07 PM

But wouldn't that irreversibly fry the drive?

Why would it start working again?

 

If that's the problem, what do I need to do? Replace the board?

 

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-06-09, 13:57 PM

Could someone who knows something about this apparently common problem please reply?

 

 

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-07-15, 16:16 PM

Hey Stinkbug,

 

I don't know the answer but I completely sympathize with your pain.  I'm part of an IT department which is rolling out T440s's with Samsung SSD HDDs (MZ7TD256HAFV) and we've had 20% - 30% of them come up with the 2100: Detection error within the first 24 hours to first week of service.

 

We've tried RMAing the HDDs

Updating firmware

Updating the Lenovo divers and software

Swapping HDDs into different laptops

Running stress tests

Tried them on docking stations and off docking stations

 

Nothing seems to help, besides rebooting the machine, crying over unsaved data and lost time, then just moving on with life.

 

There seems to be no clear reason why they throw this error at this time.  If we could trigger it we could troubleshoot it more easily.  So at this point we're just gathering as many serial numbers as we can, we're running every test we can think of and scouring the web for ideas.  We are trying to build a case / have a good argument ready and call Lenovo to put an end to this nonsense.  However since we can't nail down the cause, it's going to be difficult case to make at this point.

 

The only common factors here are they are all Lenovo laptops and all have Samsung SSDs.

 

-Sloppy

 

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-07-21, 16:16 PM

T520 with OCZ Vector and OCZ Vertex... same problem. AAAAAaaaaarr. Unbeliveable!

 

 

[edit] OCZ Vertex with latest firmware works...! 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-07-22, 14:39 PM

Hi Sloppy,

 

There's an updated tip that may help with your issue:  ThinkPad may bluescreen and reboot to a POST error 2100

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-07-22, 15:53 PM

Thanks!

 

Funny, my post was dated 7/15/2014.  That article is dated 7/17/2014.  Someone might be listening :smileywink:

 

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?DocID=HT082504

 

Will test it out, hopefully it works.

 

-Sloppy

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-07-22, 16:00 PM

wrote:
...

Funny, my post was dated 7/15/2014.  That article is dated 7/17/2014.  Someone might be listening :smileywink:

...

 


I'd prefer to think of it as masterful moderation :smileylol:

 

Please let us know how it goes - either way.

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-07-28, 12:42 PM

LOL, I applied the patch then reboted.  The laptop came back with athe 2100 error!  Too funny!  :smileyvery-happy:

 

I'll try powering it off, leaving it off for a few minutes then restarting it.

 

-Sloppy

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-08-13, 21:11 PM

I just enountered this problem on my ThinkPad T420s running Windows 7x64.

After installing Microsoft updates from 12 August 2014 Patch Tuesday,

my machine reboots to blue screen, and then reboots to the 2100 error.

 

My storage device is a 1TB Samsung 840 EVO running the latest Samsung firmware

so updating device firmware isn't a solution.

 

There's nothing wrong with my system, as confirmed by Lenovo Diagnostics,

including Advanced memory diagnostics.

 

The work-around I've found is to enter BIOS Setup with F1, and then F10 to Save and Exit,

whereupon the system reboots normally. This presumably resets the BIOS, suggesting this

is a ThinkPad BIOS issue.

 

I'm now working to isolate the Microsoft updates that are causing the blue screen problem.

Thus far both KB2970228 and KB2980245 appear to be suspect.

I've been able to recover from blue screens with Startup Repair and System Restore.

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-08-13, 21:27 PM

Hi JNavas,

 

What happens if you enter BIOS and just exit without saving?

 

My WAG is that what you're actually doing is giving the SSD more power-on time to initialize internally before it gets probed.  The save-and-exit reboot may not be a full power cycle.

 

Just a WAG but I have seen this on other SSDs.  In that case (Crucial) a firmware update fixed things.

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2014-08-13, 21:53 PM

wrote:

Hi JNavas,

What happens if you enter BIOS and just exit without saving?

My WAG is that what you're actually doing is giving the SSD more power-on time to initialize internally before it gets probed.  The save-and-exit reboot may not be a full power cycle.

Just a WAG but I have seen this on other SSDs.  In that case (Crucial) a firmware update fixed things.


Exiting BIOS Setup without saving (by means of the menu) appears to work, although it's hard to say for sure because the issue isn't 100% repeatable. I use F10 because it's fast, not because it does a save. I think the primary factor is probably just entering BIOS Setup rather than how you exit it.

 

Regardeless, I doubt this is an SSD issue where it needs more time, since

  • Problem occurs even from cold power off (batteries removed), but without blue screen it doesn't occur.
  • There is a long delay before the 2100 error appears that far exceeds the response time of any SSD.
  • Others have reported the problem appearing and disappearing.
  • More than one brand of SSD is associated with the problem, and a common firmware issue is unlikely.
  • Similar problems aren't being reported on other computer brands as far as I can tell.
  • My Samsung 840 EVO SSD is a major brand with the latest firmware.
  • I've used this SSD for months without incident, and without blue screen it works fine.

The blue screen and forced power off is probably leaving the BIOS in an unusual state. Drive firmware update appearing to help may simply be coincidental. When the BIOS is behaving normally again, I suspect the old SSD firmware would also work. As I said before, I think this is probably a ThinkPad BIOS issue.

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Win8.1Pro64 | i7-7820HQ | 32GB | 512GB SSD | WQHD | AC | BT | Cam | FR
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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2015-01-23, 10:26 AM
hi stinkbug ,
I have X1 cacbon laptop and have error 2100 on HDD0 after update "PM Setting Lenovo"... after that, I used another HDD box sata2 to USB3.0 , attach to Laptop X1cacbon and installed win 8 on it. It work fine until I updated "PM Setting Lenovo" again. HDD Box 3.0 died on the same way SSD have. I decided bought another SSD sandisk 128 to replace it. and I never update this "PM Setting Lenovo". Everything work fine until now. That's it with my case!
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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2015-04-15, 10:02 AM

I've just hit this problem on my X1 Carbon (SanDisk SSD). I think -- but I'm not certain because I haven't been using the machine very much recently before this week -- that the trouble may have started after installing BIOS 2.70 at the beginning of this week. The machine reboots normally after powering off. A quick diagnostic run shows no errors; I'll be running the full diagnostics later today.

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2015-04-23, 8:03 AM

We had this issue with more and more of our 450 brand new bought Lenovo S1 Yoga devices. After searching the internet and phoning around with a lot of Lenovo people someone from lenovo sent us this link:

 

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht102884

 

In short words - if you have a wrong combination of Chipset and IRST driver you may encounter those problems.
We installed the mentioned driver combination on our devices 3 days ago and since that point we had no reports about this problem. Let's keep the fingers crossed that this is the solution.

 

Chipset Driver: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-yoga-series-laptops/thinkpad-yoga/20c0/downloads/DS038348

Intel RST: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-yoga-series-laptops/thinkpad-yoga/20c0/downloads/DS038349

 

Greetings

Paddy

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2015-06-11, 8:34 AM

About a year ago I had a similar problem with my Lenovo W530 (Intel SSD Drive). Lenovo changed almost every part of the computer. My problem was static electrical changed hdd. The problem was a hdd cover that was designed in the wrong way. The easy solution was bending the two small metal parts at the hdd cover so they coould touch the hdd. This will remove static electrical charge from the hdd. This problem also generated some multi color flickering of the screen.

 

Best Regards

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2015-10-12, 8:57 AM

I was brought a Laptop T430 with this error this morning. I went online to see what was out there, however nothing I tried from all the solutions worked. There was a good post on youtube -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiWFEhsVQ0E. However my one did not come up with the quick device storage test and it would not work

 

I decided to reboot the Laptop and press 'F12' to see if it would bring up the boot menu as in Dells. 

 

It brought up several options of which one of them specified the HD itsself. 

 

As soon as I selected this option and pressed the enter key, it started to boot in to windows. The Laptop booted up fine. I have sinced restarted and started from cold boot and it seems fine. 

 

It seems that there maybe various fixes for this error. So take the fix I tried as another one. See if it works for you.

 

Thank you 

 

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Re: 2100: Detection error on HDD0 (Main HDD)

2015-11-21, 14:44 PM

I have a Lenovo Twist.  On the HDD plate cover the spring can be faulty and not apply enough pressure to the echip (small washer on the screw of the plate) to properly ground the hard drive and complete the connection effectively when screwed back in place. Keeping the spring in place I took a small piece of wire jacket from a small wire that fit snug in the screw below the threads and placed it as a spacer under the echip to remedy this issue.  Initially I replaced the hard drive only to have the error come up again however once I applied this fix it is back to normal.

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2015-11-22, 22:45 PM

wrote:

We had this issue with more and more of our 450 brand new bought Lenovo S1 Yoga devices. After searching the internet and phoning around with a lot of Lenovo people someone from lenovo sent us this link:

 

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht102884

 

In short words - if you have a wrong combination of Chipset and IRST driver you may encounter those problems.
We installed the mentioned driver combination on our devices 3 days ago and since that point we had no reports about this problem. Let's keep the fingers crossed that this is the solution.

 

Chipset Driver: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-yoga-series-laptops/thinkpad-yoga/20c0/downloads/DS038348

Intel RST: http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-yoga-series-laptops/thinkpad-yoga/20c0/downloads/DS038349

 

Greetings

Paddy


No, it did not work for me.

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