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Clean Install of Windows 8.1 on new SSD

2014-06-30, 14:06 PM
Hello - I'm installing an SSD drive on my new T440s today. First use, and no data needed. I'd rather a fresh install of Windows 8.1 (pre-installed), and do not wish to use the recovery partition. Is there any way I can install Windows 8.1 from scratch and have it activated? Thank you!
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Re: Clean Install of Windows 8.1 on new SSD

2014-06-30, 14:12 PM
I guess you cannot install Windows 8.1 directly, you have to use Windows 8 installation ISO image. Its activated automatically by product key from BIOS. Then you can upgrade to Windows 8.1 updating via Windows Store (before that you have to install updates from Windows Update and be logged in by Microsoft Account, not local account). Thats the way i did it.
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Lenovo T440s, 20AQ0067MC, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Samsung 840 EVO SSD 250 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T430s, 2356LQG, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 520 SSD 180 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T420s, 4171-6SG, Windows 8 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 320 SSD 120 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T400s, 2808-CYG, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Re: Clean Install of Windows 8.1 on new SSD

2014-06-30, 23:30 PM
Thank you, Pleon. I'm fine with an upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1. Any idea how I can download this Windows 8 ISO? I'd much prefer to download it rather than use recovery, if it exists there.
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Re: Clean Install of Windows 8.1 on new SSD

2014-07-01, 8:01 AM
Contact me on pgotze@live.com may be we can handle that somehow.
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Lenovo T440s, 20AQ0067MC, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Samsung 840 EVO SSD 250 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T430s, 2356LQG, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 520 SSD 180 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T420s, 4171-6SG, Windows 8 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 320 SSD 120 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T400s, 2808-CYG, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Re: Clean Install of Windows 8.1 on new SSD

2014-07-02, 0:22 AM
pleon - why do you think I cannot install Windows 8.1 directly? My T440s comes pre-installed with 8.1. Also, will this method retain UEFI? Thanks!
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2014-07-07, 21:33 PM

I tried it several times: installing 8.0 + Update to 8.1 is NOT the same as installing 8.1 directly.

 

Do a plain and direct 8.1 install, its possible and FAR better!  trust me.

(tested this several times..)

 

my sugestion for you:

 

  1. Issue number one: whats your OEM-windows 8-Key?
    use google to solve that riddle.. perhaps there are tools to read the key from the BIOS?
    (since there are no stickers any more...)

  2. use google again to download the 8.1-iso directly from Microsoft.
    its tricky but it works, but only from a Computer with Windows 8 on it..
    (completely legal!)

  3. again use Google to find information on the Microsoft-Support-Pages 
    with information about what the   "ei.cfg"  does...
    keep in mind: an OEM-Key works only with an OEM-Windows and
    a retails Key only with a Retail-DVD...

  4. find the "Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool" from Microsoft.
    it turns a Windows-Setup-ISO into a Windows-USB-Boot and setup-PenDrive.

  5. tranform the ISO into a USB-Boot-Key/-stick/-Drive..
  6. do the "ei.cfg" magic (easy since the Data to be changed is now on the USB-penDrive..)
  7. boot from USB-Stick/Drive..
  8. if asked: enter the OEM-Key you paid for by buying the Notebook.
  9. done.

all steps mentioned her are legal.

kind regards

Fritz

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2014-07-08, 13:27 PM

Fritz:
Thanks for sharing what you have learned...
Is it possible to burn the "OEM" version ISO to a DVD then set boot order to boot external DVD 1st and install from there?
Is the DVD then "smart enough" to directly read the license key from the BIOS?

While it seems that it "should" be designed this way ... I have no clue if it would work....

 

Also... I just stumbled across this site but have not tried any of their suggestions:  http://www.windowsreinstall.com

Thanks,
Jim

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2014-07-08, 15:32 PM

Both Windows 7 and Windows 8 have built in ISO burning facility - simply by double clicking or righ clicking the ISO file you can then burn the file to a DVD if you have a burner attached.

 

Windows 7 

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows7/burn-a-cd-or-dvd-from-an-iso-file

 

Windows 8

http://teamwindows8.com/2012/11/how-to-burn-iso-files-in-windows-8-without-any-software/

 

Cheers!

 

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2014-07-08, 18:06 PM

Hi Jim,

 

1st of all: an OEM-DVD needs an OEM-Key, a Retail-DVD a Retail-Key.

 

The main difference is explained by Microsoft, its a file called ei.cfg: a 5 or 6 lines Text-File.

(ask Google/Bing...)

 

Get an ISO of an Windows 8.1 Installer and Create a USB-Boot-Key of it.

forget about DVDs: too slow and too difficult to edit the ei.cfg - File

 

In my tests it did not automatically recognize the Windows-8-Key inside the BIOS.

I wonder if there are tools out there, that can read the key from the BIOS..? ;-)

 

Remember: you payed for that key but its only to be used on the Notebook its stored in.

Dont use it on another Notebook - that illegal.

 

Kind regards

Fritz

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2014-07-09, 12:43 PM

Thank you Fritz!

 

It seems like the process of doing a clean to enable BitLocker on a new drive could be made easier for an honest license-holding customers ... but I guess I'm just dreaming ...

 

For prior Microsoft OSs I've used various tools to sniff out the license key - Magical Jellybean comes to mind.

They might work on V8.1, or there may be a BIOS sniffing tool also ...

 

I have a Microsoft Technet subscription so may be able to find an ISO that does not need editing, otherwise I'll mess with the ie.cfg file...

 

First, I think I'll call Lenovo pre-sales support and see what they have to say... :smileyhappy:

 

 

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