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Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-16, 5:28 AM

Does the TP25 come with Intel AMT?  I could not find any AMT settings in BIOS but while booting I hit CTRL P something flashed across the screen saying something like entering Intel AMT settings but nothing happens and it continues to windows.  If it comes with AMT i was trying to change the default password.

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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-16, 19:47 PM

Mine does not have AMT and when I look at the parts list, none of the motherboards indicate that they have AMT.


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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-18, 15:39 PM
In recent generations, AMT (vPro) capabilities are tied to the CPU. The only CPU offered in the TP25 is the i7-7500U, which is non-AMT.

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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-19, 17:31 PM

Hi,

 

I have a follow up question.  On the x1 yoga 2nd generation.  One of the chip options is i7-7600, on Intels site it shows it has Vpro.  When you choose that chip, you are given 2 options for wifi card.  Both are intel 8265 but one shows vpro one does not.  I dont quite understand if its built into the chip what does that have to do with wifi?  The reason im asking is i dont want AMT.  Does that mean if i order 8265 without vpro that someone could plug in the 8265 wifi and "turn on" vpro?

 


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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-20, 6:26 AM

I am typing this on an x1 yoga gen2 with an i7-7600u cpu.  I don't use AMT so I disabled it in the BIOS.  


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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-22, 22:05 PM

Hi Richk,

 

I could be wrong but my understanding is by disabling in Bios AMT you are jsut disabling the interface but not amt itself?  Im basing this on the remote security exploit earler this year.  See below.  By disabling AMT in BIOS i then ran the vulnerability scan it still showed vulnerable.  I had to patch the BIOS and some do the things mentions in the below link form mattermedia to make system not vulnerable.  I guess the bottomline question is I dont want to buy a machine that shows up as not having AMT and all a person needs to do is swap a wifi card to turn on AMT.  Hope that makes sense?

 

https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/intel-business-client-software-development/topic/563988

https://mattermedia.com/blog/disabling-intel-amt/

 

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Security-Malware/Remote-security-exploit-in-all-2008-Intel-platforms/m-p/3687940#M2740

 

 

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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-22, 22:50 PM

That makes sense, but I don't know the answer.  The 2nd gen x1 Yoga I was using has an i7-7600u CPU.  It also comes with an i7-7500u which does not support v-pro.  The only 3rd gen X1 Yoga I have seen is a pre-release version I got to write a review.  It has an i7-8650u CPU which has AMT.  I don't know what other CPU options (if any) will be availavle.


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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-23, 0:58 AM

Thanks Richk,

 

Thats why im confused.  Dr_st mentioned that its chip related. I get that but then Lenovo gives the option of Vpro and nonVpro wifi card with the same processor.  So i dont want to get non vpro laptop and then have someone swap a vpro wifi card and get access to the computer via amt.  I created a user name for amt on my w510 and changed the default password from "admin".  Once i patched the processor.  Somehow the default password got changed back to "admin".  due to this i'd rather get a non vpro/amt laptop next time.  Thanks for trying to answer my questions.

 


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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-26, 12:30 PM

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So i dont want to get non vpro laptop and then have someone swap a vpro wifi card and get access to the computer via amt.

That would be impossible. If your core firmware (as determined by CPU and chipset) does not support vPro, you cannot magically enable it by putting in a vPro-compliant WiFi card. Otherwise everyone would buy the cheaper non-vPro CPU/PCH from Intel, get a vPro WiFi card and unlock the feature.

 

"vPro" WiFi card means only that the card itself can be used to enable AMT over WiFi. You still need the core capability.

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Re: Does TP25 come with Intel AMT?

2018-01-26, 16:07 PM

Thank you!  So you are saying even though its the same processor that supports Vpro Lenovo could enable the feature at factory or not?

 


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