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LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-06-28, 4:07 AM

Hey, I recently acquired a refurbished Lenovo t410S

 

It has i5-560 2.67Ghz dual core

Origianlly 3GB ram but upgraded to 6gb ram,

standard intel gpu and 250 gb toshiba hdd.

 

I have wiped out the given OS Win7 then freshly installed Linux Mint 17

 

This will be my dedicated programming terminal and I have been having quite a bit of "fun" configuring customizations. So far I can ru:

20 firefox tabs including this one

system monitor

a clamav virus scan

terminal based updates

a pdf version of 400pg book

customized timer/clock/calender

Transmission torrent application

 

and the load is

1.4Gb Ram

averaging 14% in all four logical cores

core temperatures at 46 +/- 4 celcius

 

I am finding this laptop extremely fast for what it is, in fact I liked it so much I gave away a 4gb ram from my E530 for its' 2gb ram.

 

I am planning to give it another 4gb ram and I have checked that the max ram this cpu can handle is 8gb using gnome.

 

Here is are the questions:

1. What exact model of T410S is this? More importantly what year was this made?

 

2. During a long/harsh compilation (2+ hours of 95%+ all cores) this thing starts heating up a lot even on a cooling pad. It was at 93 celcius until I paused compilation. I am going to be switching to a better cooling pad but it seems that there are two parts of the laptop that heats up even during lower loads:

a) back of the laptop near the AC adapter

b)left back corner by the grilled vents

I've been looking for after-market internal cooling fans without sucess, is ther such one? If so where?

 

3. As much as the size and weight justifies its' mobility the battery life makes it a short ranged laptop. Since it is an older model, did they ever make the 9 cell battery?

 

4. I have seen and read about the modular Optical Drive bay for extra 3 cell battery and HDD. Where would I be able to find them?

 

Thank you for your time

 

-SJL

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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-06-28, 14:20 PM

IMHO up to 45...55 degrees for the usual work, up to 90...95 degrees for the very heavy load is normal situation.

Ultrabay battery (57Y4536), Serial ATA Hard Drive Bay Adapter III (43N3412) - look them on amazon, ebay.

 

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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-06-28, 8:51 AM
Hi, SJLPHI

1. Laptop model (MTM, Machine-Type-Model) can be found on the case bottom. Also serial number should be placed here. Of course, if the case chassis wasn't replaced. If you know MTM and s/n you might check out laptop specification, parts, warranty status on the Lenovo support site.

If the systemboard wasn't replaced it's possible to estimate the laptop manufacturing date. Usually that day correlates with systemboard manufacturing date which can be found (again, usually) on the RAM sticker connector (full s/n includind p/n) or using Windows command or hardware test.

2. Old laptop should be cleaned: cooler impeller, heat sink. Thermal pad under that heat sink should be replaced.

3,4. I think there are compatible batteries on ebay, aliexpress etc. As well as the drive bay.



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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-06-28, 13:27 PM

Thank you x220

 

it seems like 2912-R42.

 

What is the designed operating temperature range for this machine? It seems to be in low 40 celcius at idle and

Sensors tell me:

 

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0:       +36.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
Core 2:       +38.0°C  (high = +95.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1:        3970 RPM  but the "performance guided" fan speed would be

while the max fan speed is 4000 RPM.

 

Also I find that the upgrades are extremely hard to find for this laptop especially because most modern search engines "corrects" 410s to 410

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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-06-28, 14:16 PM

Your T410s as it left the factory:

 

i5-560M(2.66GHz) 3GB RAM 250GB 5400rpm HD 14.1in 1440x900 LCD Intel HD Graphics CDRW/DVDRW 802.11bgn wireless WWAN option Bluetooth 1Gb Ethernet UltraNav Secure Chip Fingerprint reader Camera 6c Li-Ion Win7 Pro 32
 
The most meaningful upgrade would be a SSD. Do bear in mind that you need the less common - and somewhat expensive - 1.8" format. Maxing the RAM out at 8GB would be another thing to do.
 
Most ThinkPads were designed to operate up to 95 degrees C, but the "safe" temps are normally under the 80 degree range.
 
T410/s was discontinued in late 2010 from what I recall.
 
Happy upgrading.
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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-06-28, 14:20 PM

IMHO up to 45...55 degrees for the usual work, up to 90...95 degrees for the very heavy load is normal situation.

Ultrabay battery (57Y4536), Serial ATA Hard Drive Bay Adapter III (43N3412) - look them on amazon, ebay.

 

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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-08-05, 14:38 PM

Hi,

 

I'm trying to upgrade my T410s, as well. I made the mistake of purchasing a 2.5" drive before realizing it wouldn't work. I can't use the ultrabay because I have a battery in there. I currently have a 1.8" SSD, but do you know if the bay can handle a 9mm drive? I read the T410 can, but I'm not sure about the T410s. I was going to get one of the 1.8" SSDs off NewEgg. It looks like the'yre all SATA III, but the plug looks exactly like the microSata plug on my current drive, can anyone confirm that they are in fact compatible? I'd prefer not to get a second drive only to find out it doesn't fit. 

 

Also, in my experience with my laptop, it overheats badly. One thing that definitely helped is removing the thermal paste and re-applying arctic silver. That cut the temperature by 10-20C. Before, I could never have my CPU on anything above "lowest" or ever use my Nvidia GC without it overheating and crashing, now I can. The other suggestion I have is to install TP Fan Control and crank it up to 5-7. It's a bit loud but at least it doesn't overheat. 

 

Thanks!

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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-08-05, 15:07 PM

wrote:

Hi,

 

I'm trying to upgrade my T410s, as well. I made the mistake of purchasing a 2.5" drive before realizing it wouldn't work. I can't use the ultrabay because I have a battery in there. I currently have a 1.8" SSD, but do you know if the bay can handle a 9mm drive? I read the T410 can, but I'm not sure about the T410s. I was going to get one of the 1.8" SSDs off NewEgg. It looks like the'yre all SATA III, but the plug looks exactly like the microSata plug on my current drive, can anyone confirm that they are in fact compatible? I'd prefer not to get a second drive only to find out it doesn't fit. 

 

 

Thanks!


Welcome to the forum!

 

Your T410s will be fine with a SATA III drive as long as it's in the proper 1.8" format.

 

A thorough list of such drives is available in this thread:

 

http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/Hard-drive-1-8-quot-form-factor/m-p/1637894#M100076

 

Good luck

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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-08-07, 4:01 AM
I don't know if you can force a 9.5mm drive into the bay on a T410s, but I know you can on the X220 (with some modification).

Of course, try it without the rubber rails.

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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-09-21, 4:00 AM

Well, in the past few weeks I've had catastrophic failures on my T410s, I suspected that it was an issue with the OS and changed from Linux Mint 17 to Ubuntu 14.04.1LTS.

 

It seems that during boot the HDD seems to fail to load properly. I understand that this laptop is 4 years old and a software tells me that overall run time is around 310days.

 

I want to take this opportunity to make a jump to SSD.

 

Now it is hard enough to google search "T410S" without google 'auto-correcting' to T410.

 

Is there a list of compatible 1.8" SSD's out there? I've tried 1.8" SSD mSata and most of the search results returned with SSD without casing. I am looking for ~=150GB and reliability>speed

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Re: LENOVO T410S upgradables

2014-09-21, 4:27 AM
You'll want a proper SATA drive (not mSATA), and SATA is standard, so if the drive fits...

Alternatively, you can run a full-size 2.5" drive in the Ultrabay.

It might also be cheaper to get a SATA II drive instead of a SATA III drive, but you can futureproof against moving to a newer machine.

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