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New Thinkpad T490s design makes me want to leave Lenovo - has anyone tried Dell 7490?

2019-03-23, 7:32 AM

Hi, 

 

Long time Thinkpad user since T420.  Currently a T460s is my daily-driver.  I've been very brand loyal. 

 

One of the things that makes me happiest about Thinkpads is their easy-to-service design.

 

But they keep getting thinner, and thus, less servicable.

 

First went the CPU socket, then the 2.5" HDD slot. 

 

Now on the T490s they've removed the RJ-45 socket, SD card slot, and soldered all the RAM on the MB (!)

 

Was looking at the Dell latitude 7490 which looks quite comparable to the T490s but with all the things I like still intact - has anybody who's a big Thinkpad fan tried it?  What did you like / not like in comparison to the Thinkpad?


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Re: New Thinkpad T490s design makes me want to leave Lenovo - has anyone tried Dell 7490?

2019-03-25, 21:33 PM

The T480s machines are the 1920x1080 FHD models. Yes they are most definetly stuck in the 6-bit color depth display mode with current intel and/or Lenovo drivers. Check my post on these forums found here for more information abou tthis. My speculation is that there are a lot more T480s effected by this but folks have not looked to check. 

 

As far as the T490 goes it looks like the measured deminsions, wieght, and functionality are very close to the T480s models, so I am looking to go that route for now. Lol assuming they actually display in 8-bit color depth mode. So far in another thread the T490/T590 are displaying correctly. Which is good news.

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Re: New Thinkpad T490s design makes me want to leave Lenovo - has anyone tried Dell 7490?

2019-03-23, 16:37 PM

This is exactly why I am looking at the T490 and not the T490s. Oh and that both of the brand new T480s models I have had over the past three weeks are stuck in only displaying in 6-bit color depth mode. Very irritating, been using the T-Series machince for well overa decade.

 

Thanks for the mention on the DEll Latitude 7490 it looks to be compariable to the the T490.

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Re: New Thinkpad T490s design makes me want to leave Lenovo - has anyone tried Dell 7490?

2019-03-23, 20:18 PM

Are those T480s the FHD models or the WQHD models? Why do you think they'd be stuck at 6-bit?  Sounds weird.  Have you checked BIOS settings?

 

Someone on another thread mentioned a few things that sour me on the Dell 7490:

1) Keyboard mounted under the case (harder to service - requires removing entire motherboard)

2) Keyboard doesn't feel as good

3) Power limit 22w vs 44w on T480s - throttles performance across the board

 

I noticed actually the T480s with lower-spec processor got better Cinebench R15 scores than the 7490 due to the last point:  

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T480s-i5-8250U-FHD-Laptop-Review.315374.0.html

 

Someone on another thread said if I don't like the way the T490s is going (too thin, unserviceable) go with the T490.  Makes sense.

 

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Re: New Thinkpad T490s design makes me want to leave Lenovo - has anyone tried Dell 7490?

2019-03-23, 21:55 PM

check moninfo, chances are, they ARE 6 bit panels like my A485

 

 

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Re: New Thinkpad T490s design makes me want to leave Lenovo - has anyone tried Dell 7490?

2019-03-25, 21:33 PM

The T480s machines are the 1920x1080 FHD models. Yes they are most definetly stuck in the 6-bit color depth display mode with current intel and/or Lenovo drivers. Check my post on these forums found here for more information abou tthis. My speculation is that there are a lot more T480s effected by this but folks have not looked to check. 

 

As far as the T490 goes it looks like the measured deminsions, wieght, and functionality are very close to the T480s models, so I am looking to go that route for now. Lol assuming they actually display in 8-bit color depth mode. So far in another thread the T490/T590 are displaying correctly. Which is good news.

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Re: New Thinkpad T490s design makes me want to leave Lenovo - has anyone tried Dell 7490?

2019-04-17, 14:23 PM

When you need some thing like t480s than go to T490. I have tried a T490s last weedkend with i5. It only has 15W limit. Performacne was very bad. 

For cooling you will have only one heat pipe instead 2 like T480s.

Display with 400 nits is nice but i don't need it. 

 

On T490 i don't have any info. But he should have better cooling and performance.

 

I had a Dell at work. Fan is quite loud, and it has some driver problem :(. 

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Re: New Thinkpad T490s design makes me want to leave Lenovo - has anyone tried Dell 7490?

2019-07-28, 20:30 PM

I can't tell you much about the Dell, I'm afraid.  However, I found myself here because I've been thinking along the same lines as you, and a DDG seach lead me to your question.

After searching a bit more though, what I noticed is that we need to be careful that we are comparing like for like!

 

The T460s doesn't seem to have the same chassis as the T490s.  In fact, from what i've found, the T490 (without the "s") is about the same physical size as the T460s.

 

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad%20T460/ThinkPad_T460_Platform_Specifications.pdf

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad%20T460s/ThinkPad_T460s_Platform_Specifications.pdf

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad%20T490/ThinkPad_T490_Platform_Specifications.pdf

https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad%20T490s/ThinkPad_T490s_Platform_Specifications.pdf

 

T460: 339 x 232.5 x 21 mm

T460s: 331 x ~227 x ~19 mm

T490: 329 x 227 x ~18 mm

T490s: 329 x 226 x ~17 mm

 

Judging by this, I don't really know why they bother making an "s" version of the T490.

Of course, it did cross my mind that perhaps these published numbers are inaccurate, but I measured my T460s and I can confirm that at least those numbers are right. See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd0v9ZHBQOU

 

I'm going to do a bit more checking, but I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that perhaps the T490 is for me.  I like the size of my T460s.  It's not too big and it's not too small.

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