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T400 killed SSD Vertex 2 - recovery? Recommended drives?

2011-08-09, 13:53 PM

Hello all,


after almost 6 months of working perfectly fine, my ThinkPad T400 2765 52G (out of the box except for double/quadruple memory and SSD) won't boot from a OCZ Vertex 2 120GB any more.
Screen will only show the common 2100 error, BIOS does not recognize the drive. 

As I am on a 2-months'-trip abroad, I do not have many opportunities to mess around with the drive or even let a specialist have a look.
So far, I bought the first best HDD and a SATA to USB casing to check if the SSD can be found while connected to a USB port, without success. (Neither BIOS nor Win7 would recognize the drive.)

BIOS settings, prior to crash set to AHCI, are since then on Comaptible..


  1. Is the drive a complete write-off?
  2. Can the data be rescued in any economic way? As I am travelling, I was unable to obtain my usual backup routine and so some new folders slipped thorugh. They are of great value to me, but yet not worth the cost of a professional data rescue firm. In varius ThinkPad forums, I stumbled upon fellas who succeeded in accessing a device that had not been listed in BIOS via Linux.
  3. Problems in combination with ThinkPads seem to occur on a regular basis with all current Vertex drives, be it due to incompatibility issues with the Sandforce controller or due to the physical measurements of the drives. Also, the Lenovo SSD Firmware update does not contain anything useful for OCZ products. So, what drives does Lenovo recommend in combination with the T400 series?




Thanks in advance for your help and support!

Bernhard

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Re: T400 killed SSD Vertex 2 - recovery? Recommended drives?

2011-08-11, 9:55 AM
Lenovo staff? Anyone?

I am especially looking for info regarding my last question..
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Re: T400 killed SSD Vertex 2 - recovery? Recommended drives?

2011-08-12, 2:25 AM
Looks like the drive decided to die. Very likely (read: totally) unrelated to the T400 being a T400. Current SSD technology, in my opinion, is about as mature as a screaming infant craving attention from it's parents. (See SATA incompatibilities, getting the drive dimensions wrong [how hard can this be?], swapping out your NAND, controller failures, sudden 8MB death syndrome, etc.) You might be able to get more help off of the OCZ forums. SSD data recovery is extremely expensive, so that option may not be your best choice.

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Re: T400 killed SSD Vertex 2 - recovery? Recommended drives?

2011-08-12, 4:27 AM

If the computer recognizes the drive you can try flashing the most current firmware from OCZ onto it. Other than that you will have to send it in for a replacement. I'm guessing you did not have the firmware up to date on that drive since pretty much all the issues with them have been resolved with firmware updates.

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Re: T400 killed SSD Vertex 2 - recovery? Recommended drives?

2011-08-12, 6:13 AM

Try OCZ forums for help. Many SSDs have issues. My T400 shipped with a Samsung SSD. If data reliability and compatibility is your goal (instead of speed), I'd look to an older Gen Intel or Samsung for a replacement. For Intel, I would go with a last gen Intel X25-G2. I went with an Intel 320 in my T420 and had the 8MB loose all data bug hit in the first day of use, the firmware fix for the 320 is coming who knows when. I wish I had just returned it and bought something else.

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Re: T400 killed SSD Vertex 2 - recovery? Recommended drives?

2011-08-12, 8:15 AM
Interesting and enlighting what you said but... Not mature? why you said so? The 8 GB syndrom was a defect of the intel drives and it was fixed by a firmware update. There are certains controllers that fail more than others, but... do we sacrifice all the ssd technology? plenty of vendors and consumers are using it everyday. It would be a catastrophe if all the disks stopped to work after few months
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Re: T400 killed SSD Vertex 2 - recovery? Recommended drives?

2011-08-12, 12:42 PM
Thanks for all of your feedback.

What I found out in OCZ forums so far is that all the OCZ drives seem to face serious problems. They usually refer to the laptops manufacturer or sandforce controllers being the reason.

Is there anything explicitly recommended and approved by Lenovo? I yet have to find an official list of compatible drives, preferably non-sandforce driven ones - as the Intel, for example.
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Re: T400 killed SSD Vertex 2 - recovery? Recommended drives?

2011-08-13, 0:02 AM

I will be able to get you the model number from the 64GB drive in my T400 if you want it (Lenovo Part # 43N3400). The drive does not support TRIM.

 

I believe that 128GB Samsung that shipped with the T400 (and other models) is MMCRE28G8MXP. I think it also does not support TRIM, but there might be a firmware upgrade.

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