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T400 without Windows?

2008-09-08, 22:39 PM

Hi all,

 

  I'm a *nix sysadmin/programmer, and have no use for Windows. I'm torn between getting an Asus Eee PC 1000H/Linux and a ThinkPad T400 2764-CTO. I am leaning to the Eee because of not having to pay the MS tax, but leaning towards Thinkpad because I've had so many thinkpads and love then (t43p now, t40 before this, a22m before that, 770z before that...).

 

  Is it possible to get the Thinkpad without Windows in the first place (ie: with FreeDOS)? I'd rather not go through the hassle of refusing the EULA (specially with the NDA controvesy).

 

  Thanks in advance!

 

Digimer

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Re: T400 without Windows?

2008-09-08, 23:09 PM
Not that I am aware of.
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Re: T400 without Windows?

2008-09-08, 23:34 PM

Did you go through the process of refusing the Eula? If so, was it a hassle?

 

If I am forced to get Windows, is there an option to downgrade to XP (before or after ordering)? If I *have* to have it, I could use it for testing, but I really don't want Vista.

 

Digi

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2008-09-09, 3:03 AM
No, I agreed with the EULA. I'm not wasting my time trying to get a refund. As far as getting XP, I don't know what is available in Lenovo Canada.
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Re: T400 without Windows?

2008-09-09, 18:58 PM

Okay, thanks. I decided to split the difference and bought a refurbished T43p. It's running Linux flawlessly; Everything works "out of the box", even the wireless works without ndis, which is awesome.

 

Thanks for your help. Maybe by the time I am ready to replace this T43p Lenovo will be more flexible.

 

Digi

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2008-09-09, 19:06 PM
Just a heads up: The T400's are so new, you're in for a lot of work to get them working. I'm writing this on a T400 that is dual-boot to Vista (because Vista has the modern power-saving features as a point of comparison) -- I'm running Linux kernel 2.6.27-rc5 (for wireless support) and Xorg 1.5 from Debian experimental. The laptop successfully starts X only about 20% of the time. There appears to be a lot of ACPI related problems.
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Re: T400 without Windows?

2008-09-09, 19:17 PM

I had expected the usual T400 "bleeding edge blues", had I gone that route. Heh, Debian is my favourite distro, easily, but I have to admit to falling for Ubuntu on the destop. Debian is amazing for servers, but on bleeding edge hardware? Heh, you are braver than I. :)

 

Thanks!

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