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05-11-2010

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Re: T410s versus Macbook Pro 15

2010-05-11, 4:28 AM

One more thing on that last post, both computers got to be so expensive because I was playing with the idea of getting the solid state drive as opposed to the rotating hard drive. From what I've read, everything says that these will be quicker even as they are filled and also that they are more energy efficient, though I would assume that this difference is not noticeable enough to constitute the price difference.

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12-20-2008

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Re: T410s versus Macbook Pro 15

2010-05-11, 5:57 AM

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dgad,

 

I'm a student looking for a new laptop and I'm basically torn between the macbook pro 15 and the Lenovo T410s, both of which have the i5 processor and essentially the same hardware, except the Lenovo gives a 600 dollar student discount to make the 2275 dollar laptop only 1670 while my almost identically configured macbook pro is 2100 after the meager 100 dollar student discount. Based on your experience with both, would you mind writing a more in depth review between the two?

 

As a student, I'm primarily looking at programs within the microsoft office set, but I'm a little held up with what you said about the internet surfing being more enjoyable on the mac. How so? And just generally for a student, which would you recommend? I'm going to Berkeley for pre-business and so I shouldn't have any need to run hefty programs like CAD.

 


If you get the Macbook Pro with the intention of using the Windows on it as your primary OS, then you would experience quite a few problems with driver compatibility. And the battery life of the MBP under windows is also lower, so you should keep these stuffs in mind.

 

P.S. If you intend to keep your laptop for a few years, then you should not get a laptop with a built in battery (which MBP uses), since they do wear out, and the cost of replacement is quite prohibitive.

 

 

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Jin Li

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I am a volunteer, and not a paid staff of Lenovo or Microsoft
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04-18-2010

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Re: T410s versus Macbook Pro 15

2010-05-17, 13:07 PM

The main aread that the MB Pro is superior to the Lenovo is the wonderful glass touchpad.  The input and feel and extra features make it a joy to use.  2 finger & 3 finger swipes make a big difference.  IMO the Mac for casual surfing is wonderful.  For typing in the day the Lenovo is better.  For typing at night the backlit keyboard of the MB is better than the Lenovo w. the tiny light on top.  You need to play with a Mac to understand.  The touchpad ergonomics are well geared to the internet. You will be fine with either but if I was typing all day I would go w. the Lenovo.  If I was surfing I would go MB. 

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04-05-2010

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T410 versus L412

2010-05-23, 0:51 AM

Could anyone elaborate on the considerations one should take into account when deciding between the T410 and L412? Battery life longevity and build quality and portability are the three most important considerations for me.

 

The T410s simply has disappointing battery life at 2.5-3 hours under "normal" usage. Less if you're doing anything more intense than web surfing or working on a spread sheet. Shame a 9 cell isn't available with the machine. Speaking of which, anyone had personal experience with the battery life of this machine with the 3 cell bay battery addition?

 

Thank you in advance!

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12-20-2008

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Re: T410 versus L412

2010-05-24, 3:54 AM

L412 is not even in the same class as the T410. L412 is similar to the SL410.

 

the 3 cells bay battery usually get used up first, before the 6 cells battery gets discharged, so this usually leads to lower life span of the 3 cells battery. Get a spare 6 cells instead. 

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09-07-2010

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Re: T410 versus L412

2010-09-12, 15:38 PM

I have a new T410 and your right. The battery life is very disappointing. I run it in battery saver mode all the time and keep everything dimmed and turned off if I don't need it. My friend has the mbp 15 and starts at 6-8 hrs of battery life on a full charge vs my 2-2.5 hr.

 

I would have for sure given up another 1/2 pound on the machine for a bigger battery. 4 hrs would have been what I would think the very min you should get on a modern day lap top. This, in my view is a real missed opportunity by Lennovo.

 

Oh yeah, has anyone else had issues with the password manager talking to the fingerprint reader?

It does not seem to realize that I have authenticated my fingerprints already and keeps giving me the same error of " no fingerprints have been authenticated, please register you finger prints first"

 

Crazy

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12-01-2008

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Re: T410s versus Macbook Pro 15

2010-11-28, 6:56 AM

I have a X200s and standard issue at work is a T400.

I love the battery life and light weight of my X200, but  just wish i could get it with a 14 or 15" screen. I hate the tiny 12" screen.

Then ofcourse, i see my wife use her MacBook and envy the beautiful display and the glass trackpad.

 

Are we never going to see a well engineered Thinkpad quality machine with the looks, trackpad and sleek display of a MacBook Pro or better - a MacBook Air? Will it always remain the stodgy 1960ish outside appearance?

 

With a docking station always., please, this whole Thinkpad Edge with USB dock is annoying.  Or is that the way of the future docks and i should get used to it?

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Re: T410s versus Macbook Pro 15

2010-11-28, 10:19 AM
if a Thinkpad looks like a Macbook Pro, it won't be called a thinkpad, but rather an Envy...

Thinkpad Edge mixes different features of business and consumer laptops for people whom may not have considered buying a thinkpad.

The usb 2.0 is too slow, in the usb 3.0 standard should make the usb docks more usable.
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12-27-2009

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Re: T410s versus Macbook Pro 15

2010-11-28, 13:37 PM
I much prefer the Lenovo redesigned trackpad to the glass touchpad of the MacBook. For one, there's WAY too much stiction on it; I don't want it to resist my finger as I move it, and that's where the textured surface really does the trick; it lets me move my finger fluidly.

MacBook keyboards aren't too bad, but they're outright mediocre. And besides, as a TrackPoint user, I simply find the TrackPoint to orient my fingers with respect to the keyboard and type from there. I have a sheet of microfibre cloth over the keyboard when I type to prevent it from getting shiny, and that occludes all of the letters, which would defeat both the back-lit keyboard as well as the ThinkLight.

For a sleek display, go for the T510's HD+ or FHD panels; the former is great for casual use, and the latter moves into professional usage with a 95% color gamut (I believe this is NTSC).

And I would seriously ditch the brand if they made the T-series any bling-ier like consumer brands. (As a side note, anyone ever notice that the black keyboard on the recent MacBooks looks like black bread mold growing on a piece of aluminum toast?)

USB docks definitely won't be the way of the future, at least not in the mainstream-professional range; they still have bandwidth issues which tying the dock connector directly into the system bus solves. Plus you can't charge the laptop through a USB dock lest you want to fry your USB port.

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
X200s: SL9400, 6GB RAM, 64GB SD card, WXGA+ screen
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12-10-2008

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Re: T410s versus Macbook Pro 15

2010-11-28, 14:04 PM

I have a T400s and a T500 in my office my best friend has the newer T410s with switchable graphics and he has lots of BSOD as for the MBP I have the latest 15 i7 model for my personal use and I love it from my experience with Lenovo Thinkpad after the T61 I noticed that quality deteriorated rapidly my T500 is bad the T510 same or worse shame I used to use Thinkpads at office and at home put I seriously think its not a good investment anymore...

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