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T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-20, 2:44 AM

I ordered a T420s on 3/29 (still hasn't shipped yet btw) and was wondering if I create the recovery discs, install an Intel 320 SSD and recover from the discs, will my laptop boot under 10 seconds like it says here (before I install any software or change any settings of course)? That page says the T420s can boot under 10 seconds because of EE 2.0 and an SSD. Or is the blog post just some marketing thing where "something else" was also done to the PCs?

 

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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-20, 11:23 AM

Hi k8t,


Why don't you try it yourself once you get the system and then let us know about your finding? :smileywink:

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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-20, 11:29 AM

It is about 10 seconds. A little different depending on what configuration/software you have on your computer.

If you do not use heavy security programs and messenger programs or bloatwares installed on your computer, your computer will boot as if it were resuming from sleep.

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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-20, 23:34 PM

Ya, I would have already tried it if I had my T420s. I already have the SSD. I was hoping someone out there had already done this since it seems people have gotten their T420s orders. I guess those who received theirs haven't tried recovering to an SSD yet.

 

This is the first time I ordered a notebook from Lenovo. I didn't know Lenovo takes so long to get things done.

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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-21, 2:43 AM

When did you order?

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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-22, 16:42 PM

Reading the forums at notebookreview.com, there are some people who installed SSDs into their T520 and W520 notebooks using the recovery discs. They got around 25-30 second boot times which is normal for any other notebook with a clean install of Windows 7 on an SSD (at least that's what I've read). That makes me think that recovery discs made from an HDD based notebook can be used on an SSD without getting performance issues. There were issues about not being able to recover from the discs when setting the BIOS to UEFI only. This could mean that steps and 1 and 2 from the blog (custom UEFI firmware from Phoenix and native UEFI mode 64-bit install of Windows 7) aren't available for the T520 and W520 or the recovery discs really are only for HDD based installs.

 

Also note that the T520 and W520 notebooks aren't claimed to have 10 second boot times according to this page. Only the following devices can boot in 10 seconds with a proper EE 2.0 setup:

  • E220s
  • E420s
  • T420s
  • Y460p
  • Y560p
  • Y470
  • Y570
  • Y570d

There's still some hope that a T420s with an aftermarket SSD can boot in under 10 seconds. I haven't found anyone who have tried using a recovery disc on a T420s and SSD yet. I only found people manually installing from a Windows 7 disc without first trying the recovery discs.

 

I honestly don't know why people automatically opt for "fresh"/"clean" installs and think they can set things up better than the makers of the notebook themselves. Plus, Lenovo has stated that EE 2.0 cannot be duplicated on these supposed clean installs and requires the customized Lenovo image. So a clean install will for sure have worst performance right off the bat.

 

@Andy2108

I ordered mine on 03/29. It still hasn't shipped as of the writing of this post. If you're interested, my original ship date estimate was 04/08. It got changed to 04/07 (interestly, it changed to this date on 04/08), 04/21, 04/19 and now 04/27. If it doesn't ship next week, I may just try to cancel the order and give up on researching how to properly install Windows 7 and EE 2.0 on the T420s.

 

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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-27, 13:55 PM
K8t,
How is it going now since your last post? Have you recieved your T420s and installed mSata SSD? I am waiting for mine and eager to know if it work fine from R&R disc.
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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-27, 21:48 PM

Unless I'm both badly mistaken AND heard the Lenovo Tech Support rep wrong, the recovery discs won't install a UEFI Windows 7 OS. At this point, you'll need to do a clean install. Hopefully Lenovo will release UEFI recovery discs in the future.

 

Regarding those 5 "Recipe" items:

1. All 2011 Thinkpads have a UEFI firmware. Is it "custom"? I don't know

2. Your SSD will need to be GPT format. Here's how to tell if it's MBR or GPT format - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463524#EVD in the last section "Examining Drive Configurations".

3. I think any SSD will work, including aftermarket SSDs, if their performance is on par with the Intel 160GB M-class.

4. I don't know if you get this with a clean install. The RapidBoot utility might be what this refers to.

5. Who knows?

 

That said, my T420 consistently boots to a ready desktop in <30 seconds. That's for a laptop joined to a domain, a nice long password, and no more spinning blue ring around the mouse pointer. I'd love to boot in 10 seconds sometime, but IT guys like me sometimes get busy and can't do everything they would like to do. :smileyhappy: All my users would love to boot in under 30 seconds.

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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-28, 0:25 AM
Would you mind to share the spec of your 420 that boots in <30 sec? Is it SSD or original factory configured HDD + EE2.0?
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Re: T420s and Enhanced Experience 2.0

2011-04-28, 2:20 AM

@Greenform

Sorry, I gave up my EE 2.0 and after market SSD research. My shipping delays and bad customer support with contradictory replies has reached the limit of my patience. I'm in the process of cancelling my order. At least 1 phone rep has confirmed it is cancelled. I also sent an email request for my cancellation but from my experience so far, it'll take at least 2 days for an email reply. Reading elsewhere, it seems Lenovo's interdepartment communication is done by horse since the cancellation request may not reach the factory in time or at all. If it ends up shipping and whether or not I have to pay a restocking fee, Lenovo will have an unused T420s in there hands. Too bad, I was also thinking of replacing my work's Dell Precision notebooks with Thinkpads for controlling our embedded systems (FPGA boards and lab equipment). I guess we'll be sticking with Dell or maybe HP.

 

At least camoh has provided excellent information. Thank you. I'm surprised you got anything out of tech support or even understood what they're saying. I wonder if you call again and this time they might say it does support UEFI.

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