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T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-01, 15:10 PM

Hello! Very upset. I followed rigorously the purchase order process and was never asked for backlit keyboard feature which looks now as an option (I had it on previous T430 and used a lot). In some of the documentation I received I even have indicated that the model I have *has* this feature. So what is going on? Nothing pointed me to this *option*! Any suggestion?

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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 16:06 PM

Just choose keyboard layout you need (have a look at the fru_bom list below), get appropriate keyboard  p/n (FRU) and google aftermarket (ebay, amazon, probably aliexpress - cheaper, or a lot of IBM/Lenovo parts supplyers - more expensive). Get it and replace yourself (have a look at the Hardware Maintenance Manual below).

Or purchase keyboard replacement at the Lenovo authorized service provider in your country, for your money, of course.

I hope you understand #2 will be more expensive.

http://download.lenovo.com/parts/ThinkPad/t440s_fru_list_20140217.pdf
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t440s_hmm_en_sp40a25360_01.pdf



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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 10:02 AM
Hi,

has the spacebar key the small backlight label?



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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 12:01 PM

Thank you for your reply.

No, neither I recollect my previous T430 had it. I could activate the feature via CTRL and then SPACE.

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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 12:36 PM
In order to activate backlight keyboard should have that capability. Compare these keyboards images (google), with and w/o b/l capability - 04X0101, 04Y0824. Both of them are for t440s, US layout, Chicony. Have a look at the spacebar key. It might serve as indicator.

You might ensure whether your laptop keyboard has backlight on the support site, by laptop serial number:
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/ibasepartslookup

Keyboard with b/l feature has "B/L" symbols within its description.



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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 13:36 PM

Thank you.

No, no chance. I do not have that feature. Do you know if a retrofit is possible? Would that be worth effort and cost?

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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 16:06 PM

Just choose keyboard layout you need (have a look at the fru_bom list below), get appropriate keyboard  p/n (FRU) and google aftermarket (ebay, amazon, probably aliexpress - cheaper, or a lot of IBM/Lenovo parts supplyers - more expensive). Get it and replace yourself (have a look at the Hardware Maintenance Manual below).

Or purchase keyboard replacement at the Lenovo authorized service provider in your country, for your money, of course.

I hope you understand #2 will be more expensive.

http://download.lenovo.com/parts/ThinkPad/t440s_fru_list_20140217.pdf
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t440s_hmm_en_sp40a25360_01.pdf



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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 16:16 PM

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Thank you for your reply.

No, neither I recollect my previous T430 had it. I could activate the feature via CTRL and then SPACE.


No, it is not activated via Ctrl+Space, it is activated by pressing Fn+Space. Perhaps you had Ctrl and Fn keys swapped on the T430?

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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 18:02 PM

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wrote:

Thank you for your reply.

No, neither I recollect my previous T430 had it. I could activate the feature via CTRL and then SPACE.


No, it is not activated via Ctrl+Space, it is activated by pressing Fn+Space. Perhaps you had Ctrl and Fn keys swapped on the T430?


Sorry, my apologizes. Of course the right activation was Fn and then Space.

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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2014-10-03, 18:04 PM

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Just choose keyboard layout you need (have a look at the fru_bom list below), get appropriate keyboard  p/n (FRU) and google aftermarket (ebay, amazon, probably aliexpress - cheaper, or a lot of IBM/Lenovo parts supplyers - more expensive). Get it and replace yourself (have a look at the Hardware Maintenance Manual below).

Or purchase keyboard replacement at the Lenovo authorized service provider in your country, for your money, of course.

I hope you understand #2 will be more expensive.

http://download.lenovo.com/parts/ThinkPad/t440s_fru_list_20140217.pdf
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t440s_hmm_en_sp40a25360_01.pdf


Thank you. I am afraid that is the only solution, a solution nevertheless :-) 

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Re: T440s - Backlit Keyboard

2015-02-24, 5:23 AM

Sorry for the bump, but I recently ordered a T450, and made the same oversight as the OP during configuration.  And, yes, I was rather bummed.

 

A request -- Lenovo, could you change the configuration screen so that it shows "(non-backlit)" for keyboards without the backlight?  I saw that configuration option ("Keyboard - US English") and assumed it was only asking for the language for the keyboard, not whether it had a backlight or not, so I never expanded the option.  Once I realized my mistake, it was too late because the order had already been sent to manufacturing, as verified by an online chat with a rep. :(

 

Question -- has anyone here ordered the 04X0101/ 04X0139 keyboards that are available on Amazon et al?  Are those the same quality (or, perhaps, the same thing) as the OE ones (Chicony / Liteon) from Lenovo?

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