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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-08, 1:35 AM

People are complaining about panels here. Well the fact that is LCD manufacturers have stopped producing many CCFL LCD in the 16:10 format of various sizes, many of the LCD are stockpiled by Lenovo to ensure that is continued supply for the thinkpads. If it is properly stored the LCD would not deteriorate in 15 to 20 years. This is also why people are still buying the IPS screen for many of the previous geneeration of thinkpads.

 

Once Lenovo runs out of stocks of the LCD, they would either replace them with LED backlight version or move on the 16:9 format, and if it is the latter reason Lenovo would want hold out for as long as possible. 

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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-08, 2:05 AM

 

I would love to see the entire thinkpad line migrate over to 16:10 LED screens, even more so if I can get a 1650x1050 or 1920x1200 screen that would fit in my T500 with LED ;)  I would hate to see the Thinkpad flagships move over to 16:9.  I can understand the SL's since 16:9 are more inexpensive, but I think it is important for the buisness machines to maintain the taller aspect.  I belive Apple are taking this same approach with the Macbook Pro.  I think LCD manufactuers are going to have to accept that they cannot dictate what they manufacture, they have to manufacture what OEM's NEED.  I think all of the larger laptop companies need to work together to tell the suppliers that this is not going to happen. and we as end users have the obligation of letting the OEM's know that we are not interested in this.  Right now I've been waiting for almost a month for a Lenovo L222, sure I wouldn't want a TN screen optimally, but there are so few good 1900x1200 displays out there.  I hope it comes in soon.  Sorry this was a wandering post but I think my point is well made. 
I understand that Lenovo and OEM's feel they are at the mercy of the suppliers, but this simply is not the case..  Lenovo is the LCD manufactures customer, and if their supplier will not provide what Lenovo's customers want, then they should be looking for another supplier.  

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People are complaining about panels here. Well the fact that is LCD manufacturers have stopped producing many CCFL LCD in the 16:10 format of various sizes, many of the LCD are stockpiled by Lenovo to ensure that is continued supply for the thinkpads. If it is properly stored the LCD would not deteriorate in 15 to 20 years. This is also why people are still buying the IPS screen for many of the previous geneeration of thinkpads.

 

Once Lenovo runs out of stocks of the LCD, they would either replace them with LED backlight version or move on the 16:9 format, and if it is the latter reason Lenovo would want hold out for as long as possible. 


 

 

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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-08, 5:55 AM

Regarding the LCD industry, the laptop manufacturers are constrained by input cost of parts, while the LCD manufacturers don't really care about the laptop industry (they are an oligopoly), they push up prices on parts that they feel no longer generates enough profits or if they want to move to different format. 

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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-08, 7:30 AM

Well, it could be true. Lenovo would like to replace LCD with LED as soon as possible. If in that case,

I feel not happy with that because I have my laptop with vista home basic, which is not allowed to upgrade to windows 7. I admit that lenovo mentioned that in the windows 7 upgrading program. But when I customized my laptop, they didn't show it explicitly.

 

Only few days after I received my laptop, the windows 7 released. Then I found I'm excluded from upgrading program. I'm alien in the world. And lenovo asked for even less for the same laptop with windows 7 only few days later. I paid more, however, no way to be one of them!

 

I feel that lenovo want to sell all the vista home basic before nobody want it, because they still have some copies left (not exactly, but something similar), just like the LCDs.

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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-09, 12:16 PM
Lucky you !!! ... I wish I had an older one in my 2009 T500 built-in .......
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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-09, 16:03 PM

 


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Lucky you !!! ... I wish I had an older one in my 2009 T500 built-in .......

 

 

:smileyhappy:  Thank you.

Hope you're lucky, too. However, it also depends which brand of LCD you receive.

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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-09, 22:34 PM

 


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This is also why people are still buying the IPS screen for many of the previous geneeration of thinkpads.

 


I don't think why people buying IPS screen made in the past because the quality is not deteriorated, or even better than the latest ones.

 

 

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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-10, 2:46 AM

Was there much 16:9 WXGA 14" capacity in 2006?  My guess is the firmware data in the screen is wrong.

 

I have the WXGA+ on my T400, and I sure wish I had the older quality screen of my T61p: brighter, sharper, better contract, and wider view angle:robotwink:.

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Re: The manufacture date of T400 WXGA TFT LCD monitor

2009-11-10, 3:58 AM

 


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Was there much 16:9 WXGA 14" capacity in 2006?  My guess is the firmware data in the screen is wrong.

 

I have the WXGA+ on my T400, and I sure wish I had the older quality screen of my T61p: brighter, sharper, better contract, and wider view angle:robotwink:.


 

Ya, I do wish to get one as good as the T61p's.:smileyvery-happy:

 

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