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03-12-2010

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ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-03-12, 21:07 PM
Dear all appreciate your comments which is better?

ThinkPad T410, Model 2537CTO

Intel® Core™ i5-520M Processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3, 1066MHz FSB)
1x2 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory
320GB, 7200rpm HDD SATA throughput 3.0GB/s
14.1" 1280x800 WXGA TFT with LED Backlight
NVidia NVS Switchable Graphics 256MB
DVD-RW Multiburner
Intel® Centrino Advanced-N 6200 agn WiFi with AMT/vPro
Bluetooth
56k Modem,
1Gbit LAN,
3G WWAN Ready (Antenna and Sim-Card reader installed but without 3G-module
UltraNav (Multitouch Trackpoint and Touchpad)
TPM Security Chip
Fingerprint Reader
Camera
6c Li-Ion battery
Windows 7 Professional 32 license, WinXP installed
3 years On-Site Warranty NBD

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ThinkPad T400, Model 2768CTO

Core2Duo P8600(2.40GHz/1066MHZ/3M),
1x2GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory,
160GB 7200rpm HD,  throughput 1.5GB/s
14.1" 1280x800 WXGA LCD,
256MB ATIRadeon 3470HD Hybrid Graphics
DVD-RW Multiburner
Intel 5100 802.11agn WIFI,
Bluetooth
56k Modem,
1Gbit LAN,

UltraNav (Trackpoint and Touchpad)
TPM Security Chip
Fingerprint Reader
Camera
6c Li-Ion battery
Windows Vista Business 32
3 years On-Site Warranty NBD

 

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01-29-2010

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-03-12, 21:17 PM

i5-520M is a far superior processor to P8600

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html

 

NVS 3100 is much better than 3470HD

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

the only reason to go with older generation stuff is to save money

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02-10-2010

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-03-12, 23:25 PM

Note that although the T410 says it has switchable graphics--it really does NOT.  Only the T410s.  The T400 does have swtichable to the best of my knowledge.

 

Assuming pricing is similar, between those two configurations you listed, I'd almost certainly go with the T410.  If there's a bigger pricing difference, then it comes down to performance vs. $$$ and which is a higher priority to you. 

 

One thing that's helpful when asking for comparisons of hardware is to list what you plan to use it for (web surfing and word processing require much relatively less powerful hardware than say CAD work, softtware development, video encoding, etc), whether you want to be able to play 3D games, whether long battery life is important, whether minimizing cost is a high priority or not important, really anything else that might help people make an informed recommendation.

 

Cheers!

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-03-13, 8:27 AM

They are so different, and personally I think T410 is much better.

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03-11-2010

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-03-14, 5:24 AM

I upgraded to the T410 from the T400 just last week, and for the most part I am very happy. I didn't realize until after the purchase that the ultrabay battery doesn't exist for the T410, which sucks. I do like the layout of the keyboard, speakers, special buttons, and fingerprint scanner better on the T410. The keyboard currently has a flaw that another thread points out....so for now, I am really hating that change....but I expect that to get fixed.  The LCD is definitely not as sturdy as the T400, but it is still pretty strong. I had a 6-cell battery on my T400 that stuck out of the back, and now have a 6-cell on this T410 that sits flush, and that is certainly much nicer. The extra ports are awesome, and one of the main reasons I upgraded.....the eSata port, the extra USB port that is always on, and the HDMI port......all very nice additions.......also, like having a card reader built in so I can toss my expresscard that used to accomplish this task. 

 

the biggest complaint on my T410 (other than the keyboard issue) is the thickness. I am pretty depressed that Lenovo no longer makes the standard T models thin and light. I first owned a T41 that my wife now uses and it is so much thinner and lighter than this beast. My mom has a T60 that got a little thicker than the T41....and then my T400 was even thicker than the T60...now this T410 is thicker than them all....and it is pretty depressing. My sister just bought a crappy $600 SL410 Thinkpad....and I put ours next to each other and they are the exact same thickness. Back in the day, I used to take pleasure in mocking my friends who had R41s, because my T41 was SO much thinner.  Anyway, now these T Thinkpads are fat beasts....and I just have to live with it....or you can pay more for less performance and hard drive storage on the T410s if you want to go back to the thinness. 

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-04-01, 22:10 PM

Spearoid,

I also have a T400 and have upgrading to the T410 for the newer processor and the new keyboard.  However, I heard that the release for the ultrabay was UNDER the Thinkpad on the bottom side, vs. on the side.  Is this true?

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-04-02, 0:22 AM

 


wrote:

I didn't realize until after the purchase that the ultrabay battery doesn't exist for the T410, which sucks. I do like the layout of the keyboard, speakers, special buttons, and fingerprint scanner better on the T410. The keyboard currently has a flaw that another thread points out. the biggest complaint on my T410 (other than the keyboard issue) is the thickness.  Anyway, now these T Thinkpads are fat beasts....and I just have to live with it....or you can pay more for less performance and hard drive storage on the T410s if you want to go back to the thinness. 


About the ultra-bay battery issue for anyone whom is considering a T410 and needs the ultra-bay battery: consider up-sizing slightly to a T510, since it does support an ultra-bay battery.

 

About the keyboard issue: Lenovo released a firmware update to fix this a few days ago and it should no longer be an issue

 

About the thickness and weight: it's funny, I guess it's all a matter of perspective.  My previous laptop was a 3.3 year old Toshiba Qosmio G30, with a 17" 16:10 screen, and it's noticeably much larger in all dimensions and at least 1.5x the weight of my T510 (which is larger and heavier than your T410!).  I was literally shocked at how compact and light my T510 is when I unpacked it, and I'm still impressed with its size and weight vs performance.  No regrets for me in that category.  I just thought I'd throw a bit of the opposite perspective out there for other potential buyers.  Now if only they'd release the keyboard bios fix for my T510.... ;)

 


wrote:

Spearoid,

I also have a T400 and have upgrading to the T410 for the newer processor and the new keyboard.  However, I heard that the release for the ultrabay was UNDER the Thinkpad on the bottom side, vs. on the side.  Is this true?


Yes this is true.  The slider to release the item in the bay is on the underside of the laptop.  Still trying to figure out why this would be a big issue for anyone, but maybe that's just me.  I've never had a ThinkPad before (nor any laptop with an ultra-bay-like feature) so maybe I just don't realize what I'm missing.  ;)

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-04-02, 0:50 AM

I love my T400, but either way looks good to me.

 

One thing, though:  I wouldn't put a 32 bit operating system on any modern machine.   You're limited to 3G of RAM usable (minus whatever your graphics eats up), so no future RAM expansion.  Everyone wants more RAM and disk eventually.

 

My $.02,

 

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-04-03, 0:40 AM

i d go with the guy that said ( in another topic ) that the future is at the T400s / T410s models - i compared my T500 with them and it looks from another century...

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04-01-2010

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Re: ThinkPad T410 OR ThinkPad T400

2010-04-07, 4:51 AM

Mutant.....

Welcome to the ThinkPad Family.  In contrast I have had various ThinkPad’s for the past 13 years, spanning a T20, T23, T30, T43, T60, T60p, and now a T400. 

 

When you realize the beauty of the Ultrabay, it will change your computing life.  The accessory that makes this happen is the Ulrabay 2nd hard drive adapter.  With this, you can mount another drive in the Ultrabay.  In my T400 I have a 500GB Seagate as my primary drive, and I have the potential of putting another 500GB in the Ultrabay adapter. Totaling 1TB of usable drive space.  This 2nd drive is fully how swappable and can be removed and reconfigured at a moment’s notice.  At anytime I can remove it and replace it with the DVD drive if I need to.  I routinely do this in the dock since the Ultrabay release button is on the side and not on the bottom.

 

Can someone from Lenovo speak to this design feature?  In my opinion this is a HUGE negative.  How much bribery would it take to get this re=engineered  :-)

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