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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-05-14, 22:14 PM

Yep, still annoyed to all hell that the E485/585 got the update which fix's that issue (raises throttling temperature) and here we are with a Business class A485 getting **bleep** on...

 

Pay more, Get less! The Lenovo way!

 

Meanwhile I still have the WONDERFUL issue where my battery goes from 50%+ to 5% and if i didnt edit my power profile, it shuts down (I also have a comedic image of Lenovo's Battery screen, not connected/detected yet pulling charge/temp info... a RIOT I tell you!)

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-05-14, 23:18 PM

I used to use Dell laptops, and I can tell you that lenovo's batteries are way worse than Dell's. The 2 batteries I have in my A485, are now both at ~80% capacity. The internal one only had 6 cycles! My old dell's battery which is 5 years old had similar capacity.

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-05-15, 0:46 AM

Sounds like the BIOS situation is still a nightmare here.

 

As much as I hate to say it, being a Thinkpad / Lenovo user for over a decade, this is going to be the instance where I switch brands.

 

At least the E series was good. Lenovo needs to do something about whoever is managing the BIOS team for this machine.

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-05-23, 6:00 AM

Yes this laptop is a complete nightmare from the BIOS side. But from the HARDWARE side as well.

 

My laptop fell 25cm off a couch... causing the system to not boot or charge. They ordered a new motherboard (mobo 2) and sent out a repair technitian. To both of our sadness, the brand new replacement board was defective and was not functional. I then had to wait for a THIRD board to be sent out and that put in the laptop.

 

But it goes beyond the motherboard issue. I am on my fourth keyboard (and third motherboard). My first keyboard: after 3 months use the middle click button was always telling the computer it was held down, so my computer was unusable without disabling the built in mouse (it would scroll only as the middle click thought it was pressed down).

 

So they sent me a new keyboard (keyboard 2) in the mail as since it is a user replacable part I can replace it myself. This replacement had a defect (forget what this was, I believe something with the keys) so they sent another replacement (keyboard 3). With THIRD one the trackpoint was defective. Moving to the right with the trackpoint was 2x slower than moving any other direction. So, very horrible to use. They then send me another one (keyboard 4). This last and FOURTH one they mailed me was fully functional, except the right click button below the space bar made 4x more noise than the other mouse buttons. I decided to just keep it and gave up. Luckily 1.5 months later the noise went away as the button wore in I guess.

 

So 3/4 of the keyboards were defective from no fault of me. 1 from 4 months or so use, 2 were defective on arrival. 1 motherboard broke somehow from a 25cm fall: not fully on Lenovo here, but.... The second motherboard was defective on arrival despite being brand new. So 1/2 of the brand new motherboards were defective. If you count that the laptop breaking from a 25cm drop.. that goes up to 2/3 of the motherboards I had have had issues.

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-06-28, 3:14 AM

We are now 5 months from the last firmware update.

Still no fix for the absurd early temperature thorttling despite E485/585 getting fixed

2 Other posts on the forum's regarding fix's for other issues that Lenovo is apparently working on...

 

Firmware 1.05 to 1.16 where rapid fire, you cant tell me it takes 5 months for these simple fix's

 

Not to mention Lenovo support isnt aware of a firmware update in the works for the A485

 

Come on lenovo, this sits on a $300 dock at work and at home when its not on the go, get it togeather ffs, why does a consumer grade product get more love then a business grade one, you charge $$$$ over the E series for this, why the abuse!

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-07-01, 15:40 PM

New bios update today. Doesn't mention thermals at all though, but there MIGHT be improvements? With 2700u I'm getting around 630-650 cinebench r15 currently. I believe I used to only get very high 500s. At this point, it's been so long that I can't remember.

Starts around 3.2ghz and the thermal throttle appears to be 2.9-3ghz. 

 

CHANGES IN THIS RELEASE
 Version 1.22
 
[Important updates]
- Modify an issue that second Battery firmware can't show in device manage and sometime run reset hang under shell mode.
- Support USB G2 Dock.

[New functions or enhancements]
  Nothing.

[Problem fixes]
- Fixed an issue that HDMI port can't display when connect HDMI monitor and USB type C dock.

 

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-07-01, 19:12 PM

I don't know if it is faster than before. I do know that there is still an issue that benchmark results are lower once the system is unplugged from power and then plugged back in. If the system is booted up with the power attached I get the highest benchmarks.

 

This is on Linux using `7za b` to benchmark (7-Zip benchmark):

 

                       Compressing  |                  Decompressing
Dict     Speed Usage    R/U Rating  |      Speed Usage    R/U Rating
         KiB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS  |      KiB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS

22:      15773   662   2317  15345  |     238923   792   2574  20379
23:      15580   668   2378  15874  |     232832   792   2545  20149
24:      15717   691   2445  16900  |     226625   789   2521  19890
25:      15246   673   2585  17408  |     222616   790   2508  19812
----------------------------------  | ------------------------------
Avr:             674   2431  16382  |              791   2537  20058
Tot:             732   2484  18220

After unplugging and plugging back in:

 

                       Compressing  |                  Decompressing
Dict     Speed Usage    R/U Rating  |      Speed Usage    R/U Rating
         KiB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS  |      KiB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS

22:      12672   644   1916  12328  |     167492   787   1815  14286
23:      12188   641   1938  12418  |     167706   793   1830  14513
24:      12236   648   2032  13156  |     165020   792   1830  14484
25:      12186   646   2152  13914  |     162222   790   1829  14437
----------------------------------  | ------------------------------
Avr:             645   2009  12954  |              790   1826  14430
Tot:             717   1918  13692

 

Average compression MIPS goes from 16,382 to 12,954. A decrease of 20%.

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10-22-2018

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-07-01, 20:04 PM

A while back, I had that performance issue when unplugged from power and then plugging back in. It seemed to resolve itself when I reset the bios to default settings. Not sure what it did since I dont think I touched any bios setting earlier. Maybe worth a try

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-07-01, 20:45 PM

Yes, I believe I used to have to do a bios 'reset to defaults' everytime I updated the BIOS as well. I haven't checked to see if the plug/unplug issue is back for me though.

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Re: Thinkpad A485 - Bios 1.05 worsens throttling further

2019-07-01, 22:12 PM

Sadly it doesnt seem the 4+ month gap since this firmware's compile date and last firmware release date included the thermal fix that was done on the E485/E585 in under a month...

 

Just flashed, reset, retried, still seems to be strangled to death at 70c instead of 85c like it should be set to (just like the consumer models)

 

I wanted to get 15 more for work, but at this point, its under a year, if I cant get someone to confirm they are going to actually FIX this fracking thermal limit, I am just going to retire my current ones (I have other issues, battery related, might just be a sign, but wanting to see if this firmware update fixed the battery problem at least)

 

All it takes to see this is to open one of my workplace's excel workbook, how annoying (my intel lenovo also gets hot when opening one, but at least its not throttled to death until 90c~), I am not even testing the light gaming I bought this thing to do...

 

 

 

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