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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-02, 16:32 PM

sorry didn't realize you wanted a T400s

I don't know the S line.

 

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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-03, 23:55 PM

Hello,

 

The SSD that my T400 came with is MMCRE64G8MPP-0VA, which is a 1.8" hd. How did you reach the conclusion that T400 has a 2.5" bay?

 

Thank you.

 

- x3r

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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-04, 7:04 AM

Well I have bought this ultrabay to my T400s:

 

http://www5.pc.ibm.com/cr/products.nsf/$wwwPartnumLookup/_43N3412?OpenDocument

 

I have it empty, just instead of DVD that i do not use, in future i will buy the secondary disc if it will be necessary. And correct me, if i am wrong, but this ultrabay ha position for 2.5" drive, not for 1.8"

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Lenovo T440s, 20AQ0067MC, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Samsung 840 EVO SSD 250 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T430s, 2356LQG, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 520 SSD 180 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T420s, 4171-6SG, Windows 8 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 320 SSD 120 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T400s, 2808-CYG, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-04, 11:57 AM

Apparently the T400s has a 1.8" and the T400 has a 2.5".

 

to reach the conclusion that the T400 has a 2.5" is very simple: Lenovo offer a 500gb disk on the T400. That capacity has never existed (and will not exist for a while) for 1.8" disk.

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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-04, 12:08 PM

this is ultrabay is only for 2.5" disk. you should double check with lenovo whether it fit the T400s, since the "s" is thinner than the regulat T400.

 

you might be able to find 1.8" to 2.5" adapter but not sure if it's worth it.

I would probably just take the cheapest hard drive when you configure your T400s, buy a 1.8" SSD and a decent 2.5" 500gb for the ultrabay

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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-04, 14:24 PM

Actually i kind of disagree to a certain extend. I like speed and I had use the latest Hitachi 7200RPM 2.5" drive before I switched to MTRON SSD, i found that the speed is 'marginal' faster for certain usuage only. Now that I have a X301 with the Samsung 1.8", I still find the 'speed' comparable to Harddisk. I run a business application which needed the fastest write speed.

 

From my experience and research, the bottleneck to the speed is due to the IDE/SATA interface on our laptop. ie the fastest SSD will meet the same HDD speed when jammed at the transfer rate there. Some other geeks may disprove this. Anyway, if you copy large amount of files from an external harddisk to your SSD/HDD, look at the 'more info' and you may find the write speed around the same level.

 

BUT, if you read a lot of filesfrom SSD/HDD to the external (ie copy it out), the the read speed of the SSD is definitely faster than HDD. That is why some people 'feels' that SSD is faster than HDD because we all read data using programs most of the time.

 

With the Intel SSD, and maybe Sata2 interface, maybe the speed demon will jump in. But so far from me, it's been a narrow lane on the speedway

 

UltraBay

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When I had my T61, I saved a lot of cost by buying from ebay some ultrabay adapters from a 'china' source. It work just as great as er...those that sell at more expensive prices. If you look at the ultrabay, it is just a box with the correct adapter to plug into the lenovo side, there is little chance of wrong design damaging your laptop. You can also buy a 1.8" to 2.5" adapter from the same 'china' source if your T400 or T400s comes with either size.

 

But personally, I found that the ultraBay option is kind of useless, I plug in the travel bezel instead to save on weight, as well as the occasional freezes that vista created when some files are writing to the ultrabay harddrive. (system recovery /backup points or whatever).

 

 

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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-04, 16:21 PM

you must be unlucky with you SSD.

 

I bought the OCZ vertex 120gb back in July to replace the original 170gb 7200rpm and I did a few benchmarks:

windows boot time: 30% faster

copying a 12 gb MKV file (from the OCZ to the OCZ (different folder): 65% faster

resuming a VMware virtual machine: 40% faster

compiling a C++ file (70mb) which requires a lot of reading from a mysql database, 50%

unzipping a MKV (8gb) that was zipped over 85 files of 95mb each, 30% faster

 

the T400/T500 have SATA II and  trust me it's a lot LOT faster!!!

Now if your SSD is plugged to a PATA connector.... I don't think you'll see much difference, indeed!

 

As for ultrabay, it might be useless for you but it is critical to me.

 

my main OS is on the SDD, the ultrabay has a 500gb disk that I use for backup and to store 5 virtual machines (linux, windows server 2003, XP). VMs do take a lot of space and it's very important that VM's are on a different disk than the host os (for performance)

 

I'm sure other people have different use for their ultrabay.

 

I'm also sure that the weight of the ultrabay + a 2.5" is only marginally heavier than the DVD burner, once you compare this to the weight of a T500.

 

At the end of the day, everybody has separate needs and I can only congratulate IBM for having introduced such a option in their T series. It makes the laptop more versatile.

 

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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-04, 19:43 PM

Hello,

 

So...my SSD, which is a 1.8" drive, is in a 2.5" bay? Is this even possible?

 

- x3r

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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-04, 21:56 PM

I don't know! the truth is only one screw away!

I did some more research and there is definitely no 500 Gb hard disk in 1.8".

 

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Re: To SSD or not to SSD

2009-12-04, 22:54 PM

SSD! I chose the stock option on Lenovo even though I know there are better options. It was a decision based on convenience. I was not sure I would ever get around to ordering or swapping out my original hard drive. I have a T500 and I am so happy I went for SSD.

 

Of course, I have no experience with a regular hard drive with this system, but my computer is quieter than a ninja. Not sure I would describe it as fast, but I haven't gotten my Windows 7 disc yet and I haven't tweaked any of the settings. My notebook also runs very cool (except for the initial couple of uses).

 

And as for ultrabay caddies, can't you find cheap ones on ebay? I haven't figured out how to tell if they are genuine or not, but it sure would be nice to get one for 20-30 dollars vs, the cost on the Lenovo website.

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