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hunrex
Blue Screen Again
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Registered: ‎04-04-2015
Location: Richmond, CA
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Any Lenovo laptops still have real buttons under touchpad?

I've been a long time Thinkpad user. I've been using T420s for years, and T61 before then, always running Linux. I recently received a W450 (I think) for work, which has no real buttons. This touchpad is pretty much unusable for me, so I am going to return the laptop. I noticed that the newer laptops have the real buttons above the touchpad back (clearly, I am not the first one to find the  buttonless touchpad unusable). The real buttons at the top are nice (and important), but I also use the buttons below the touchpad a lot, and I don't see any Thinkpad that still has these. Does Lenovo still sell any laptop with the real buttons both above and below the touchpad?

 

By the way, I don't understand why Lenovo needed to change the touchpad all of a sudden after using pretty much the same configuration for many years, dating back to the IBM Thinkpad as I recall. What was wrong with the old configuration that they needed to take away the buttons that were fine for all these years? Don't answer that. I don't really care what the reason was. But this puts me in a bind because I can't move off my current T420s until I find something similar that has the physical buttons, including the middle button. I don't know if they exist. Lenovo has broken the perfect touchpad as far as I am concerned, which is unfortunate.

Guru
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Registered: ‎12-26-2009
Location: CA
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Re: Any Lenovo laptops with still have real buttons under touchpad?

Not that I know of. The alternative is to pretend the TrackPoint buttons are the touchpad buttons and use those, which isn't too bad except for needing to configure the settings in a special way to make it fully usable.

There was nothing wrong with the usability of the old design, but usable just wasn't fashionable any more.

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
X200s: SL9400, 6GB RAM, 64GB SD card, WXGA+ screen
TPT1: 1839-23U
hunrex
Blue Screen Again
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Registered: ‎04-04-2015
Location: Richmond, CA
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Re: Any Lenovo laptops still have real buttons under touchpad?

I really can't stand Lenovo's buttonless touchpad, so I ended up getting a used T430s with 16 gigs and 256 gig SSD, which should work for me for a while until either Lenovo comes up with a more functional (for me) touchpad, or I find an alternative. Looks like at least Dell sells some laptops with botton configuration similar to the T430s (3 on top, 2 below the touchpad), eg. Inspiron E6440, though it's a bit heavier than I'd like. If anyone knows of other laptops with the same touchpad button layout, let me know.

Guru
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Registered: ‎12-26-2009
Location: CA
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Re: Any Lenovo laptops still have real buttons under touchpad?

As always, use the machine that fits your needs.

I do know the M4800 still uses a very traditional layout of pointing device buttons, but since you're going for the lighter T430s machines, it's probably not the best fit.

W520: 2960XM, Q2000M @ 1091/1380, 32GB RAM, 500GB&750GB HDD & 500GB SSD, FHD&MB168B+
X61T: L7500, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, XGA screen, Ultrabase
W550s: 5600U, K620M at 1164/1281, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 3K touchscreen
X200s: SL9400, 6GB RAM, 64GB SD card, WXGA+ screen
TPT1: 1839-23U
Fisqual
What's DOS?
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Registered: ‎10-17-2017
Location: US
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Re: Any Lenovo laptops still have real buttons under touchpad?

I was really hoping that the new 25th anniversary ThinkPad would have buttons under the Touchpad (I know that a true purist wouldn't want the touchpad at all).  But thankfully the 2 T530s I have are tanks and still work for just about everything modern.  I guess I'll have to be careful not to destroy them...

Honestly, if they decided to sell just ONE new thinkpad with these buttons I'd pay upwards of 4 grand for it.  I hope they bring it back soon; having a 5 year old laptop is becoming a hassle...

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