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BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-13, 15:32 PM

First of all hi and thank you in advance for any help this forum is offering me.

 

I wonder if you can help in followin situation:

We currently test T430 and M92p with SSD drive and Windows XP 32bit. First of all when runnning SATA mode "compatible" (T430) or "IDE" (M92p) erverything's fine.

Once switching to AHCI to gain profit from modern SSD technique WindowsXP is running into BSOD 7b. This is understood as Windows XP is unable to "speak AHCI" at this point in time. Driver is required.

F6 setup is basically no option at all because hardware does not have any external device that could be used. As far as I'm aware usb stick/disk is unsupported for F6.

 

My plan: install SATA controller driver, reboot and switch SATA mode back to AHCI. But Windows start ends up in same bluescreen. I try following driver downloads:

- Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family 9.3.0.1021

- Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver 11.2.0.1006

- Intel SATA Controller AHCI Driver 11.2.0.1006 (not expecting to work with my hardware)

 

Buitin chipset is "Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller" for both T430 and M92p.

 

Any Idea or advise is highly apprechiated and please let me know if there's any further information required to proceed.

best regards

engerr

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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-13, 15:39 PM
XP does not or did not come with SATA driver and are not in SP3 either. You'd have to get the driver for your machine in advance and side load it when boot (F3 prompt in the CD boot process) or afterward install it. Then convert the control to SATA afterwards. It messier cleaning up the IDE driver that way.

Stick to Windows 7 since they're not going to support XP on that machine and that will be the first of problems with drivers and functionality if you can find them.
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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-14, 9:22 AM

>> "XP does not or did not come with SATA driver and are not in SP3 either"

I'm aware of this circumstance. That basically the main reason why I configure SATA mode to IDE/Compatible and complete WinXP installation. Afterwards I want to install a AHCI capable controller driver and fail.

 

>> "You'd have to get the driver for your machine in advance and side load it when boot (F3 prompt in the CD boot process) or afterward install it."

That's what I thought is done by F6 setup. But I'll double-check an return. [...]

Update: There's no F3 setup hence I do not use any CD setup. I should have mentioned this before. I boot PXE from network and install WinXp 100% silently.

 

>> "Stick to Windows 7 since they're not going to support XP"

This is being planned for 1st/2nd quarter of 2013 and unfortunately not my decision.

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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-14, 9:44 AM

Let's stick to only ThinkPad T430 (2349). Iinstall drivers (already mentioned above) and switch back SATA mode to AHCI in Bios (UEFI Bios v1.16 G1ET41WW) and WinXP stops startup with BSOD 7b.

 

I already tried this driver:

Intel Chipset Support for Windows 8 (32-bit, 64-bit), 7 (32-bit, 64-bit), Vista (32-bit, 64-bit) and XP

driver: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/g1ic09ww.exe

readme: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/g1ic09ww.txt

 

Intel Rapid Storage Technology Driver Windows 7 (64-bit), Vista (64-bit) and XP (64-bit)

driver: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/g1io15ww.exe

readme: http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/g1io15ww.txt

 

Setup of this drivers complete without any error but AHCI access to SSD is still not possible.

I'd also tried that "install.bat" included but this doesn't show any difference as well as deinstalling any SATA/IDE driver and let WinXO re-install my custom choose (from above).

 

I'd like to learn how to install a driver to get this working. How can I manage to run WinXP with SSD and T430 (resp. M92p)  hardware?

 

 

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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-14, 23:19 PM

Hi engerr,

 

I fought with something like this when trying to do a Win 7 install onto an advanced format drive using pre-SP1 Lenovo media.  I could install in compatibility mode but not AHCI.  Installing the Intel driver and then switching to AHCI didn't work since the Intel driver won't actualy fully install unless _already_ in AHCI or RAID mode...

 

In your situation, how about using nLite or other tool to build a slipstreamed XP + Intel driver so the driver will be available during installation?

 

Just another (possible) option,

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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-16, 13:54 PM

"Installing the Intel driver and then switching to AHCI didn't work since the Intel driver won't actualy fully install unless _already_ in AHCI or RAID mode." That would be a showstopper hence it's an chicken or the egg causality dilemma.

 

Anyway, I'm going to work with nLite and give this it try. In any case I'll have Lenovo technician on board next week. He might be some kind of "usefull" - at least I hope so...

 

Basically I cannot believe that I'm the only guy facing this circumstances and nobody has got a workaround :) Let's see. I'll keep you posted next week.

 

Meanwhile let me thank you guys, spending thoughts and replying ideas.

Apprechiatet!

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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-16, 14:06 PM
It most likely 99% of us who've bought a new machine in the last two years at least have stuck with Windows 7, especially after the SP1 was released. Its solid and leverages the hardware very well and everything is working out of the box with all the drivers etc. Lenovo fully supports the Win7 configuration and with 64bit you have full access to all the RAM.

XP never would use or recognise all the ram as good as it was its past its usefulness especially on new systems built for Winows 7. I only run XP on older system which don't have what it takes in Ram or CPU/GPU for it to run properly.

Its time to move on and deploy Windows 7 as the OS.
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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-16, 14:21 PM

I completely agree but as already stated above it's not my decision to run WinXp on new hardware.

It's my task to get it run. Of course we migrate to Win7 later on next year taking all advantages a new OS offers.

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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-16, 14:44 PM
I figured that but many of the people who just want if for familiarity and won't change. Don't realize that some things will NOT work together. Thats one reason COMPATABILITY mode is there for the controller to support legacy requirements.

Many times various programs developed for NT etc will not work anymore and change is required. You can only do so much and with Christmas coming and you get a magic wand, then you'll likely be well on your way. But I never got one in all the years I have struggled with various issues. There comes a time when the client has to be told and realize the new does not support the old and very old code. Good luck
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Re: BSOD 7b using Windows XP and AHCI SATA mode

2012-11-16, 14:56 PM

Thanks, tripp

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