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maxtothemax
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Can I install a T510 keyboard in a new Thinkpad T5xx?

Hello. I would like to know if the newer models of Thinkpad T500 series can accept the keyboard from a Thinkpad T510? I currently own a T510, and if I were to buy a new Thinkpad, I would want to know that I could swap their keyboards and continue using my current one in the new laptop.

 

I'm not interested in hearing defenses of the new keyboard or how good it is. I do not want to be told how wrong I am for preferring the old layout and key shape. If I buy a new Thinkpad I will give the new keyboard a fair shot for a couple of days, but I will not buy another Thinkpad unless I know for sure that I will not be required to use the chiclet keys if I don't want to.

 

Priority one is for the browser back and forward keys to continue working as normal. If they become magically transformed into page up/page down keys it's no good.

 

Has anyone ever attempted the transplant? Is it possible?

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Re: Can I install a T510 keyboard in a new Thinkpad T5xx?

The T500 cannot use a newer generation keyboard. You can use older T60,T61,W500,etc. keyboards, though.

 

The T510 can currently only use a T510 or T520 keyboard.


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ibmthink
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Re: Can I install a T510 keyboard in a new Thinkpad T5xx?

@ColonelONeill,

I think you missunderstood his problem. When he typed " newer models of Thinkpad T500 series" he wanted to say " newer models of Thinkpad T5xx series". He asked if its possible to swap the keyboard of the T530 out for a T510 keyboard.

 

@TS,

no, it is not possible. You can swap the T510 keyboard in, but the keys are mapped incorrect, so you can not use the old keyboard with the new ThinkPads. I would recommend you a T520 with the classic keyboard.

maxtothemax
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Re: Can I install a T510 keyboard in a new Thinkpad T5xx?

Just how different is the keyboard layout? I can remap keys in the OS if it's just a few that are different.

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Re: Can I install a T510 keyboard in a new Thinkpad T5xx?

Hi maxtothe max, welcome to the forum,

 

unfortunately the keyboard cannot be remapped as the BIOS wont recognise all the keys on the older 7 row keyboard.

Andy  

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maxtothemax
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Re: Can I install a T510 keyboard in a new Thinkpad T5xx?

Well, that's annoying. Thanks everyone for your help.

 

Seems odd that they'd willfully destroy compatibility in this way, unless there was a good reason.

IRGuy1
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Re: Can I install a T510 keyboard in a new Thinkpad T5xx?

I am typing right now on a T520 keyboard I installed in a T530 cuz I can't stand the chicklets and really liked the old style I had on two T60s and one T500. Looks like it belongs there if ah do say so mesef.

 

The function keys F1 to F4 work fine and the Fn version also is ok on these keys. The Esc key is fine as are all the keys at the upper control bar (mute, mic off, speaker +/- and power button). The delete key is thankfully active but now located at PgUp. Fn F8 is screen brighter an FnF9 is screen dimmer. There is some other wierdness but it all occurs with the keys at or above the Fn row with the exceptions mentioned.

 

Everything! below the F1-F12 row is fully active.....

 

I had to physically modify the small nubs/tabs at the front of hte keyboard to fit the T530 palmrest. this was a pain but worth it :-) !! 

 

No bios meddling, no registry hacks, no mods to  the ribbon cable and no flashing of Embedded Controller as indicated in this article on thinkwiki where I got the idea after doing some cruising around. Good luck with it if you decide to give it a try:

 

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads

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