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Gibson01
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T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

I just picked up a t440p, and I am hoping to do some upgrades on it.  I got a Transcend 512 GB SSD for the M.2 slot.  

 

It installs just fine, and Windows 10 sees the drive.  The only issue is that when the M.2 SSD is installed, there is no wireless adapter in the system.  When I remove the M.2 SSD, the wireless adapters are back.

 

Is it not possible to have both in the system and functional?  I am hoping to make the M.2 SSD the OS drive, and use the other SSD drives (2.5") for storage. 

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Re: T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

Normally, the 2242 SSD does not affect the wireless networking.  Obviously, there cannot be a WWAN adapter, but the wireless networking should be fine.  I assume airplane mode is not on, and the black and gray wires are still connected


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Gibson01
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Re: T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

Airplane mode is off.  But its weird... its like the wireless adapter just disappears.  Not even in the devices anymore, while that m.2 SSD is in the slot.  And I know that both devices work - at least individually.  Right now, I am using the wi-fi connection to connect to a hotel wi-fi to respond, but the m.2 SSD is removed from the laptop.  As soon as I shut it all down and add the M.2 SSD, its like there is no wi-fi adapter in the laptop.

 

The wireless is a Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260.  Pretty standard I assume.  M.2 SSD is brand new, Transcend 512 GB.  Laptop is a fresh install of Win10.

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Re: T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

I have never seen or heard of that issue.  All I can suggest is to make sure the BIOS is the latest one.  My GUESS is that it is a power problem on the motherboard and that the SSD draws more power than the WWAN.  That might make sense, assuming that both slots are on the same leg of the circuit.  The drive MIGHT be defective, causing it to draw more power than it should, but that seems unlikely to me.


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Gibson01
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Re: T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

From msinfo32  :

 

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Pro
Version 10.0.18362 Build 18362
Other OS Description  Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-IOMCO7O
System Manufacturer LENOVO
System Model 20AN007HUS
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU LENOVO_MT_20AN_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T440p
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4710MQ CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2494 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date LENOVO GLETA0WW (2.54 ), 8/27/2019
SMBIOS Version 2.7
Embedded Controller Version 1.13
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer LENOVO
BaseBoard Product 20AN007HUS
BaseBoard Version Win8 Pro DPK TPG
Platform Role Mobile
Secure Boot State On
PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.18362.387"
User Name DESKTOP-IOMCO7O\user
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16.0 GB
Total Physical Memory 15.9 GB
Available Physical Memory 13.0 GB
Total Virtual Memory 18.8 GB
Available Virtual Memory 15.3 GB
Page File Space 2.88 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware No
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

Gibson01
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Re: T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

BIOS 2.54 does seem to be the latest BIOS available.   Would perhaps an older BIOS version be worth trying?

Gibson01
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Re: T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

So I got my hands on a second t440p.  This one has an older BIOS than the other one.

t440p #1 BIOS version : 2.54

t440p #2 BIOS version : 2.51

 

The laptop with BIOS 2.54 does not recognize the wifi when the m.2 SSD is installed

The laptop with BIOS 2.51 sees both devices when both are installed at the same time.

 

So it is starting to appear that somewhere between BIOS 2.52 and 2.54, that something was introduced to cause this issue.

 

How do these possible bugs get reported?

Gibson01
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Re: T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

As an interim 'fix', is it possible to downgrade the BIOS?  If so, can someone point me to directions on how to do it?

andrewlg1
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Re: T440p - wireless and m.2 SSD?

Thanks for posting this. I have three T440p's on BIOS 2.52 with SSDs in the WWAN slot, and would not want to be without WIFI.
I don't have any experience with BIOS rollback, but the following link may help. I have been thinking about rolling back to 2.46 to remove the security enhancements that have slowed me down.
Give this a read...
https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-Lenovo-Rollback

edit: I'm on 2.51

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