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Vexena
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T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

Hello,

 

I have a T460 laptop with the FHD IPS (1920 x 1080) display that has windows 10 preinstalled. If I change the resolution lower then 1920x1080 the screen gets completely blurry. I'm also encountering scaling issues, As default it was set on 150%, The problem is that certain applications are blurry . The solution I found so far to fix that is to check the checkbox 'Disable display scaling on high DPI settings' but that makes fonts, ... just way too small making the application very unpleasant to work with

 

Changing the scaling to 100% fixes everything, but that makes everything too small

 

I wonder if anyone else using tesame display is encountering these issues and what your solution is to this?

ThinkPadderUK
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Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

I've got the same dpi (14" FHD screen). And I am developer by trade. The problem is the way Windows programs had been written. Programmers for years didn't have to worry about different dpi, most displays were about 96. So many of them used pixels and not logical units, so many Windows programs to this day have screen organized around fixed number of pixels. There's no quick fix other than look for programs developed with different dpi-s in mind. I.e. I used in the past Crimson Editor which was really nice but it didn't support higher dpi so found Notepad++. Unfortunately there are more complex programs with steep learning curve wich are not easy to switch (video editors, bloody Lightworks which was such a pain to learn, is still in 96 dpi world).

 

Vexena
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Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

That's unfortunate, I will leave the display at 1920x1080 @ 125% scale and look for applications that support high dpi. Thanks for the help
ocddave
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Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

Could be worse, try scaling with the WQHD at 2560x1440.....I made a huge mistake going with this screen, it's not ready for prime time.

ianw01
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Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

[Edit: I see now that it is not applicable.]

This thread might have the solution for you.

 

ocddave
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Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

That made things even worse, I just decided to go with scaling at 150%, and adjusted the color with a SpyderPro. To deal with Remote Desktop scaling issues, I went with mRemoteNG, which I am begining to like very much. I still think the Top of the line 2560x1440 WQHD display is either before its time, or not ready for prime time, as long as software is lagging behind the technology.

 


@ianw01 wrote:

This thread might have the solution for you.


 

ianw01
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Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

I see now that I mis-read the OP. Indeed, that thread I suggested is not applicable. Sorry about that!

ThinkPadderUK
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Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

I am on 14" FHD now and waiting for 14" WQHD. In theory the new one should do better because scaled pictures will be scaled more accurately. So my plan is to use scaling about 170 - 180% (I'm at 150% now) and let Windows scale dpi-unaware programs, just like the browsers do with pictures.

 

ocddave
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Message 9 of 18

Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

Prepare to be disappointed, I have never had so many issues with a display in my life. The scaling is horrible on the 2560x1440 WQHD, especially when it comes to a business PC that will more than likely be working with older software, and Remote Desktop (which doesn't scale at all - thank God for mRemoteNG). The default, just so you know is 200%, I am getting by with 150%, but I would gladly go back to my Elitebook 1600x900.

mlody
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Re: T460 Blurry display and scaling issues

I am dealing with the same issue with my new T460 with 1920x1080 panel; however, since I dock and undock many times a day, this issues goes beyond of bearable. If I lower the resolution to what I had on my old laptop (T430 with 1600x900) everything is blurry. If I keep the native Full HD resolution and change scaling to 125%, some elements are blurry, and some just do not scale properly. I could probably live with that (Full HD @ 125%) however, that actually causes two issues. First, it gives me less screen real estate than 1600x900 @100% scaled, and secondly it is a huge pita when you constantly dock and undock. I also tried 1920x1080 @ 150% scaled, but the available screen estate is even less than what the 1366x768 screen offers  Since the scaling is set on a basis one way or the highway, I can’t successfully dock and use my two external monitors @1920x1080 @100% scaled or use @1920x1080 @125% scaled when undocked without logging off and on each time when I dock and undock. This alone makes me want to go back to my old brick (T430). I have no idea who at Lenovo thought that equipping a business grade laptop with 14” screen and Full HD screen was a good idea. They should at least drop the crappy 1366x768 panel and use 1600x900 as the default and offer 1920x1080 panels as an option to those who have eagle eyes. As far as the T460 itself goes, I find it to be an OK laptop. In my opinion it is not the most comfortable to type on because the front edges are not tapered, so they poke into my writs, unlike T430 which had a nice round edge/lip at the end. Overall the plastic on T460 seems to be 1-2 grades cheaper than the plastic on T430. The touchpad, while bigger than T430, it is far from being comparable to any of the Macbooks or even T430. I find it way too often to jerk my cursor uncontrollably in undesired direction which makes this a very risky proposition when you need precision to control something or prevent an accidental click on a delete or disable or something like that. This type of behavior forces me to use a mouse for most of my work.

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