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outouser
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ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

Hi,

 

Is there any reviews available about 128SSD disks that will come with some models on T410?

I really want to know detailed specs about speed and if it supports Windows 7 TRIM?

 

Thanks!

 

Outouser

outouser
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Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

Any news about this?

 

 

outouser
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Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

Finally got my T410 with 128SSD manufactured by Samsung.

 

Here are performance data from it.

 

T410 preload w7 32bit
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CrystalDiskMark 3.0 Beta3 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
                   Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s=1,000,000bytes/sec [SATA/300=300,000,000bytes/sec]

           Sequential Read :   176.424 MB/s
          Sequential Write :   158.443 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :   147.102 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :    61.106 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) :    13.678 MB/s [  3339.4 IOPS]
   Random Write 4KB (QD=1) :    10.453 MB/s [  2551.9 IOPS]
   Random Read 4KB (QD=32) :    15.258 MB/s [  3725.1 IOPS]
  Random Write 4KB (QD=32) :     4.298 MB/s [  1049.3 IOPS]

  Test : 1000 MB [C: Used 19.5% (21.1/108.3 GB)] (x5)
  Date : 2010/03/02 8:10:48
    OS : Windows 7  [6.1 Build 7600] (x86)

pleon
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Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

these are my numbers of performance, really bad.

 

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 Beta3 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo

Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

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* MB/s=1,000,000bytes/sec [SATA/300=300,000,000bytes/sec]

Sequential Read : 145.313 MB/s

Sequential Write : 14.498 MB/s

Random Read 512KB : 125.557 MB/s

Random Write 512KB : 3.277 MB/s

Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 13.166 MB/s [ 3214.3 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 12.561 MB/s [ 3066.8 IOPS]

Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 13.394 MB/s [ 3270.1 IOPS]

Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.302 MB/s [ 73.7 IOPS]

 

Test : 1000 MB [C: Used 18.9% (20.4/107.8 GB)] (x5)

Date : 2010/03/03 8:34:20

OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)

 

I have no idea, where the problem might be. i probably try to recover from recovery partition to clean system and try on fresh system again, if there is no problem somewhere in drivers.

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Lenovo T440s, 20AQ0067MC, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Samsung 840 EVO SSD 250 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T430s, 2356LQG, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 520 SSD 180 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T420s, 4171-6SG, Windows 8 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 320 SSD 120 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T400s, 2808-CYG, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
outouser
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Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

Does anyone know how to enable firm support for Samsung SSD drive?

 

Pleon your drives performance will go much better if you have trim support on your drive.

Your drive write performance is relly bad as i can see from your results. TRIM will make write operations almost as fast as drive was brand new.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM

TinyRK
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Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

We want TRIM...

We want TRIM...

We want TRIM...

 

And now everybody together:

 

We want TRIM...

We want TRIM...

We want TRIM...

phuongdnguyen
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Message 7 of 10

Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

Windows 7 suppose to recognize the SSD upon installation and deal with it accordingly. You SSD model number starts out with MMCRE? I have the same drive and the bench number is much higher. The only thing I can think off to try is to complete reformat and reinstall windows.

 

here is a long thread on these ssd and benchmarks

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=413354

pleon
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Message 8 of 10

Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

Yeahh, my SSD model is SAMSUNG MMCRE28G8MXP-0VB, i have uploaded last firmware, but same bad performance in CrystalDisk. You are probably right, without TRIM the SSD will definitely after some time of usage go down with speed. Ihave seen lot of performance screens of others with nice performance, but ythese are on new laptops i think. I have bought another T400s to my accountant and performance on this new machine is good as well. Question, how it will be after half year of usage. may be its good time to make some reformat of SSD and put system back, to reset SSD to default speed, but i do not know, how.
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Lenovo T440s, 20AQ0067MC, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Samsung 840 EVO SSD 250 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T430s, 2356LQG, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 520 SSD 180 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T420s, 4171-6SG, Windows 8 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 320 SSD 120 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T400s, 2808-CYG, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
pleon
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Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

just for info, due to my bad performance in CrystalDisk, i tried this

 

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?64753-A-simple-guide-for-gen1-owners(-Apex-so... 

 

now my numbers are much better. Its may be better solution, than to reformat completely, because this keeps all data and is question of several minutes to do.

 

---------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 Beta3 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
                   Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
---------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s=1,000,000bytes/sec [SATA/300=300,000,000bytes/sec]

           Sequential Read :   146.388 MB/s
          Sequential Write :   100.285 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :   127.981 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :    54.164 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) :    13.277 MB/s [  3241.4 IOPS]
   Random Write 4KB (QD=1) :     3.869 MB/s [   944.6 IOPS]
   Random Read 4KB (QD=32) :    17.878 MB/s [  4364.8 IOPS]
  Random Write 4KB (QD=32) :     2.666 MB/s [   650.9 IOPS]

  Test : 1000 MB [C: Used 19.1% (20.6/107.8 GB)] (x5)
  Date : 2010/03/12 11:20:48
    OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
 

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Lenovo T440s, 20AQ0067MC, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Samsung 840 EVO SSD 250 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T430s, 2356LQG, Windows 8.1 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 520 SSD 180 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T420s, 4171-6SG, Windows 8 Pro x64 UEFI, Intel 320 SSD 120 GB, 8 GB RAM
Lenovo T400s, 2808-CYG, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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gan
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Message 10 of 10

Re: ThinkPad T410 with 128SSD harddrive performance data?

For those that want a SSD for the T410 you might want to consider buying the T410 with a cheap HDD and buy a SSD separately instead of the included Samsung SSD. Seems like the Samsung SSD's isn't really among the fastest available. Also other models like the Intel support trim.

 

For comparison here are the results with a Intel X25-M G2, 160gb. I use the Intel Matrix Storage and not the Microsoft AHCI driver so have to run trim manually using the Intel SSD Toolbox, but it's very fast to run and just do it manually about once each week. Using the Microsoft AHCI driver trim is handled by Windows 7 though so no need for the SSD toolbox. Also i read there are some new SSD's that is supposed to be even a bit faster than the Intel SSD's so the Samsung SSD's isn't really among the best SSD's and i think some of the results posted here are very low for a SSD.

 

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0 B5 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World :
http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/sec [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 bytes/sec]

           Sequential Read :   255.969 MB/s
          Sequential Write :   110.226 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :   187.711 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :   111.606 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) :    17.263 MB/s [  4214.7 IOPS]
   Random Write 4KB (QD=1) :    34.624 MB/s [  8453.2 IOPS]
   Random Read 4KB (QD=32) :   159.280 MB/s [ 38886.6 IOPS]
  Random Write 4KB (QD=32) :    96.352 MB/s [ 23523.3 IOPS]

  Test : 1000 MB [C: 36.3% (54.0/148.9 GB)] (x5)
  Date : 2010/03/12 13:27:28
    OS : Windows 7 Enterprise Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)

 

 

Except from outouser Sequential Write the Intel seems to be pretty much faster at the rest of the tests.

-gan

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