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tpennello3
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Message 21 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

This 480GB drive will work in your WWAN slot:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820168037

It's pcie, not sata.

 

I have the 240GB version installed in the WWAN slot in my t580.

7633be37d7
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Message 22 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

Finally got around to getting my T480 going; installed the Toshiba SSD with zero issues in the WWAN slot.

Kamzata
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Message 23 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

Do you think it could work for T480s as well? By the way... is it pretty fast? I'm planning to install Windows 10 on it.

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Message 24 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

I haven't done any benchmarks on it but it runs fast for me (a SATAIII SSD was fine for me so anything NVMe is mostly overkill 90% of the time). I run VM's on it that don't do a lot of I/O. I have a 512GB NVMe SSD primary disk and the 512GB toshiba in the WWAN slot and then 32GB of memory in this machine and it's a nice package that's still pretty thin/light with the 3-cell battery (the 6 cell is huge).

 

To answer your question: The T480s cannot run this configuration; the WWAN slot cannot run an M.2 NVMe SSD. That is preciecely why I had to go with the T480 over the T480s; I needed that extra onboard SSD. Note, the T480s uses 4 PCIe lanes for it's storage device so you'll get a lot performance (IOPS and GB/s) out of it. The T480 uses only two PCIe lanes for the primary SSD and two lanes for the WWAN slot so that is the compromise there.

 

Like anything, there is always a compromise. 

 

Google "t480s platform specifications" for more info on the T480s.

 

 

Kamzata
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Message 25 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I've already seen those specification but I think it's really strange... at least 1 lane has to be present otherwise how can the WWAN card work?

 

Reading the T480 specs they say it can also work with 4 lanes:

 

"Some: M.2 SSD / PCIe NVMe, PCIe 3.0 x 4, 32Gb/s"

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Message 26 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

Yeah I mean your logic is the same as mine; I just haven't seen anyone that's made it work (or tried). To be honest though, I haven't researched it much.

 

Regarding the T480 and 4 lanes - there was a big discussion about it and it seems that the platform spec sheet is incorrect or perhaps vague. You can read more about it here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/T480-M-2-2280-SSD-slot-has-only-2-PCIe-l...

 

At the end of the day, I think a single 1TB NVMe SSD in a T480s would probably have been fine for my use case; however, I didn't want to take the chance of having a bunch of disk related issues with my host OS because the guest VM's were using a lot storage IO. The T480s is a bit thinner, sleaker, lighter and uses some nicer materials - I love that machine but it just didn't quite fit my requirements.

Kamzata
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Message 27 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

Sure! Thanks! Could you tell me how are the Toshiba RC100 temperatures? Did you notice any high temperatures out of the normal? 

7633be37d7
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Message 28 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

I haven't actually measured the temperature of it nor have I researched software that may be able to get the information from the platform but I don't notice anything abnormally warm. Seems to run just fine but I do not do anything storage intensive with my machine.

bkahler
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Message 29 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

Looks like it is actually a 2242 form factor - but with an 8 cm heat shield. So, the card probably works. The question is if there is a temperature issue when the machine gets hot.
Kamzata
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Message 30 of 54

Re: Thinkpad T480 M2 2242 SSD

RC100 uses a SoC design which features both the SSD controller and the NAND flash on the same chip. This means less surface to dissipate heat compared to other SSD models.

 

Anyway... on T480s it works!

 

toshiba.png

 

... and it works pretty well!

 

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