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archon810
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Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

Hi guys,

 

I bought the T570 with their cheapest SATA HDD so that I can clone it and upgrade myself, but once I popped open the back, I found that there's not an M.2 slot available for the upgrade drive (Samsung 960 Pro).

 

According to the manual, https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1240407/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T570.html?page=139#manual, I need a converter of some sort, which I presume replaces the SATA cable and the mount for the much smaller form factor drive.

 

I found this http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/accessories/memory-and-storage/storage/HDD-BO-ThinkPad-M-2-SSD-Tray/p/4..., but it has 0 information on whether it's compatible with the T570, and whether this is what I need in the first place.

 

Can someone help? Has anyone done this already?

 

Can I pick it up somewhere so that I don't have to wait 5-7 days for it to arrive? I also have a 3-year NBD support contract, but after calling support, I am told they can't just come bring the part.

 

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

I just called Lenovo parts, sales support, and technical support once again, and nobody is able to actually give me any reliable information. I can't believe just how awful this aspect of Lenovo is.

 

A helpful Redditor pointed me in the direction of these 2 parts if that 4XF0N82414 part doesn't work:
https://lenovo.encompass.com/item/11092983/Lenovo/01ER035/C.a._M.2_Ssd_Adaptor_Ht_Lts-1
https://lenovo.encompass.com/item/11096057/Lenovo/01AY476/Assembly_Bracket_M-ssd_W_thm_m

 

These are both listed as compatible with the T570, but are not in stock and cost over 2x combined.

 

It's also unclear if this is what I need to perform the upgrade or not.

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Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

Bad news - the part I ordered (M.2 SSD Tray 1 4XF0N82414) is not compatible. See the attached photos showing the wider connector from the current system and the new, narrower connector from the M.2 adapter that we thought would work.

 

The 1st photo shows even if the connector worked, the cable is not long enough to reach anyway. http://i.imgur.com/9BUOawt.jpg

 

The 2nd photo shows the stock wider connector at the top and the new narrower M.2 one at the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/dUICKGl.jpg

 

The 3rd photo shows the new M.2 connector next to the motherboard slot, where it becomes obvious how short it is. http://i.imgur.com/nt7eCYF.jpg

 

So, now the only hope is https://lenovo.encompass.com/item/11092983/Lenovo/01ER035/C.a._M.2_Ssd_Adaptor_Ht_Lts-1 and https://lenovo.encompass.com/item/11096057/Lenovo/01AY476/Assembly_Bracket_M-ssd_W_thm_m, although if 01ER035 fits the existing M.2 card that I got as part of 4XF0N82414, then I won't need 01AY476.

 

I'm talking to some people at Lenovo about sourcing the parts sooner, but at the moment, mid-August is still the estimate for those.

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Message 4 of 16

Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

Hi,

 

I can only go by - and offer what I read.  No experience with this.

 

From the look of the HMM you can put a smaller m.2 drive in the WWAN slot, and/or a larger one in the HDD bay with the adapter.  The parts list may help you track down the right FRU numbers.

 

https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t570_p51s_hmm_en_sp40j65584_01.pdf

 

https://download.lenovo.com/parts/ThinkPad/t570_20h9_20ha_frubom_20170428.pdf

 

BTW, I like to get  my manuals direct from the Lenovo support site, FWIW.

 

Apologies if this is old info.

 

Z.


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archon810
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Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

THIS IS THE SOLUTION and the definitive answer to the question in this thread.

 

Alright, I was able to get Lenovo to source the 2 required parts sooner than Encompass, and I have them right here. They work, obviousy, and are completely different than 4XF0N82414 M.2 SSD Tray 1.

 

I am now able to confirm that the M.2 card in 01AY476 is different from the one in 4XF0N82414, and both sides of the 01ER035 cable are also different.

 

Of course, 01ER035 and 01AY476 fit the T570 perfectly, as they're exactly the right parts.

 

I have now installed them and the M.2 drive is visible to the system, so I'm currently cloning the HDD to it using Clonezilla.

 

Now for some photos.

 

01AY476 M.2 bracket:

 

01ER035

 

I hope (no, I know) this information and photos will help someone in the future.

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Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

"Alright, I was able to get Lenovo to source the 2 required parts sooner than Encompass"

 

How did you manage that?

 

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Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

I found a contact for a director level, then he delegated to someone, then she delegated to someone else, and then that person worked with me directly and was able to source the part. But the channel he used for sourcing it inside Lenovo was basically the same as what tech support would use for service, so I'd try that.

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Message 8 of 16

Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

Thanks, I already went ahead and ordered the parts for my T470.  41 day lead time on one part, 10 day on the other (And they tell me that can be shorter or longer).......Not happy to say the least.  Well, at least I am in the cue from H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks.

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Message 9 of 16

Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

sorry, haven't figured out how to direct message - but wondering how do you like your T570?  Did you get the FHD or UHD screen?  Looking for a new laptop for my wife who works on a lot of excel spreadsheets, always has it docked, and uses an external monitor setup.

 

addendum:  guess i needed to confirm message board signup to send private message

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Re: Upgrade ThinkPad T570 from SATA HDD to M.2 NVMe SSD (Samsung 960 Pro) - parts needed?

(referring to message # 8):

Most of the thread is about upgrading a T570 from SATA HDD to Nvme SSD.  But you mention the T470, which is the laptop I'm considering.  Were the parts that are referenced (01AY476 and 01ER035) correct and sufficient to use in the T470 as well?

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