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Re: T61 and nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M dead GPU?! Lenovo extend warrenty or no luck

2011-11-16, 21:34 PM
thats a hot gpu.
it have very short life in a laptop.
sorry thats the short end of the stick.

those older gpu were not that great they cook up.
not really lenovo fault thats sorta a machine that aa limited life use.

workstation like laptops are not for long use.
they are a cutting edge sorta thing used for hard use and they wont last a long time with the amount of heat they make.

we talking workstation like products were companys expect 2-3 years not much longer.

you can buy a new laptop cheaper then you can fix that one for.
discrete graphic latops are a you take your chances.
they allways been that way.
too much heat too small of a space and then heavy lifting means limited shelf life.

would be nice if it lasted forever but discrete graphics laptops are that way.
you all might wanna think about that when you buy a workstation like product and wanna throw heavy graphics at it.

thats a expensive gpu too so you have to expect the mobo will be as well.

sorry thats why i wont touch a former workstation used laptop.
you take your chances with them.
any brand any GPU if it discrete thats how they go.

if you dont need that then stay away from that sorta class.
buy a new cheap brazos it be half the price then that is to fix.
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Re: T61 and nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M dead GPU?! Lenovo extend warrenty or no luck

2011-11-16, 22:25 PM

orion9727 the T61/p does not have is not really a discrete graphics it has an integrated nvidia gpu even though lenovo calls it discrete graphics




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Re: T61 and nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M dead GPU?! Lenovo extend warrenty or no luck

2011-11-16, 22:28 PM

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workstation like laptops are not for long use.




My T61p has been running 24/7 for years and will continue to do so. Even the unit I had that failed ran for 4 years before the GPU died, and it's now back in service and running as good as new. Thinkpads are one of the few laptops that can run for many many years, even running non-stop. Sitting next to me is another thinkpad that has been running almost non-stop for over 10 years. 

 

The cheap units you're recommending are disposable, thinkpads are not.

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Re: T61 and nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M dead GPU?! Lenovo extend warrenty or no luck

2011-11-17, 0:06 AM

Two of my three T61p units run all day long on Lenovo Advanced Mini-Docks at maximum performance settings with the screen lids closed (I use external monitors, keyboards and mice).

 

They have been my desktop replacements for several years with no overheating problems and they regularly see heavy use.  I power them down or go to standby every night.

 

I just purchased a third T61p used unit to keep as an emergency spare box where I can simply swap the HDDs in an emergency.

 

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Re: T61 Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M.. garbled display problem!

2011-12-01, 16:54 PM

Mark, I've got a T61 with this issue - The rep told me that he needed a Lenovo DocID that outlined this nvidia issue - Can you help me with this?

 

..AJ

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Re: T61 Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M.. garbled display problem!

2011-12-01, 17:26 PM

 


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Mark, I've got a T61 with this issue - The rep told me that he needed a Lenovo DocID that outlined this nvidia issue - Can you help me with this?

 

..AJ


AJ, 

 

I can't say if mark will have time to personally reply to you or not. You can always try sending him a PM, but I believe he gets dozens, if not hundreds a day, so he may not have time to reply. In the meantime I can tell you the Lenovo policy which your agent would probably read to you if you did get the proper article regarding this. Suffice it to say that the initial position was to replace all failed boards that are covered under warranty. Later a decision was made to replace them even when the warranty has expired, with a cut off date of March 2011 for free repairs. Extended warranties were also being offered if your unit was within 6months of end of warranty. 

 

At this stage there probably is little hope of any free repairs if you don't have a warranty on the unit, but I encourage you to try if you feel it's possible.

 

If you would like to fix it yourself, then I'd be glad to help.

 

 

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Re: T61 Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M.. garbled display problem!

2011-12-01, 18:23 PM

TUUS, thanks for your quick reply.  I suppose I'd like to keep trying as I'm at least in the same year as the offer.  As my laptop was pretty much a home body, this problem probably didn't crop up until a little later.  You mentioned something intriging related to 'fixing it myself' - I didn't think that was possible without a MB replacement (with an intel based board vs the nvidia).  I've read a lot of posts with folks taking the MB out and 'baking it' - but that really didn't sound like a good idea to me.  What did you have in mind?

 

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Re: T61 Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M.. garbled display problem!

2011-12-01, 18:58 PM

You definitely don't want to "bake" your motherboard, replacement is the only option, but you don't need to spend $575 for a Lenovo refurb board. There are economical ways to get them, I even have a couple here if your interested. I also have a couple complete laptops that have the new nvidia chip, send me a Private message if you're interested and I'll tell you what I have, and send you a copy of the guide I'm working on that covers finding a replacement and installing it.

 

As for these so called "tricks" like baking the motherboard...   at best, any benefit would be short lived, but it's more likely you'd do nothing but damage to the board. The flaw with the chip is internal, so none of the resoldering tricks that have helped past models will help either. Replacing the GPU requires expensive equipment, and even then I believe it's very easy to damage the board during the replacement, so I'd prever a good tested "virgin" board over a rechipped board.

 

 

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Re: T61 Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M.. garbled display problem!

2011-12-02, 2:53 AM

wrote:

Mark, I've got a T61 with this issue - The rep told me that he needed a Lenovo DocID that outlined this nvidia issue - Can you help me with this?

 

..AJ


The document for your issue is Lenovo's MIGR-75087

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Re: T61 Nvidia Quadro NVS 140M.. garbled display problem!

2011-12-19, 16:59 PM

Unbelieveable - I talked with Lenovo technical support gave them the document ID - they recognize the problem, but they said that since they don't have an active ECA (whatever that is) that there's nothing they can do - even though others were able to get their machines fixed.   To add insult to injury their rep (Cisco) actually hung up on me!!!   I've never had anyone hang up on me - extremely rude and hostile in my humble opinion.

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