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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 1:09 AM

let's wait ? are you daft ? at what point in MFG history do you ever recall any company making any changes that would incur cost without an outcry ?

 

I could care less if my ultrabay doesn't support or runs Sata II. I DO care my that main bay support it. I 'went all out' on this laptop, even got the onsite 3 year warranty with international. I paid a pretty penny to get 3 years of useful work out of this machine and I understood the literature to say Sata II was supported, and by supported I mean hit the SATA II speeds, I did not understand it to mean, it will run SATA II at a stripped down speed. and don't give me any crap about it cannot be done. I see 2 year old $800 3rd tier machines running it just fine on Santa Rosa.

 

Give me a bios change with dramatic warning that I can run my main bay at 3G and my ultrabay at only 1.5G, I'll sign it. They know they can change the main bay to run 3G, they just don't want the brain damage of those crying about main running 3G and ultrabay in 1.5G.

 

If I bought a car that could 120MPH but it only went 40 MPH and the MFG told me, well , yes the car itself is safe at the higher speeds, we just didn't actually put an engine that could go that speed in, I'd be pissed and anyone else who bought hoping for higher speeds would be as well

 

Believe me, soon someone will start a lawsuite over this and I will be at top of list to get my very pricey latop replaced.....for free, you slimey marketing b@stards, whoever you are.

 

Keep dancing around this Lenovo, it will come back to bite you. The people who bought these class of machine are your most lucrative market, you stab them in the back like this, you will get some Dell lovin' and end up in court. If you think that Intel trick of saying the 915 'supported' Vista was expensive in court, wait till you start replacing $3K laptops for free by the truckload.

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10-20-2008

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 1:16 AM

The CEO/CTO of my company, who just spent $800 on an SSD drive, just asked me to do research on laptops that would support 3.0Gb/s speeds.

 

We went from all Dell laptops (~20) to Lenovo last year.  Looks like it might be time to switch back.

 

Too bad.

 

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02-25-2009

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 1:26 AM

@treydur

 

I understand your angry, but keep in mind that posts like yours can lead to the threat be closed.

 

So if you want a solution: Behave please.

 

You made your statement. 

 

We appreciate any answer from Lenovo though.

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05-31-2008

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 1:43 AM

We will see if anyone from Lenovo can offer a final conclusion. either yes, there will be a fix, or No, that is, no fix.

 

I bought 2 laptops in a year, and both of them have 3 years warranty.

If you say T60 does not support SATAII, I am fine with that, so I bought a X61t for its has santa rosa and chipset support SATAII. 

yeah, i was little crazy coz i paid almost $5000 on 2 laptops in a year, for I thought Lenovo would make thinkpad better, like the old way which IBM did. maybe I was wrong.

 

 Anyways, lets not put anger in the post coz MOD may close or delete this thread.

 

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02-18-2009

Austin, TX

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 3:41 AM

For clarity, it's best to use the term "SATA 3gb/s" when referring to speed.  That's the term Lenovo uses in their system reference. 

 

The term "SATA II" may cause confusion when discussing transfer speed.  "SATA 3gb/s" is more explicit.

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02-23-2009

California

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 3:55 AM

http://www.sata-io.org/6gbnamingguidelines.asp

 

SATA II is a misnomer. SATA 3Gb/s is correct. 

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01-20-2009

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 7:48 AM

I bought 2 laptops in a year, and both of them have 3 years warranty.

If you say T60 does not support SATAII, I am fine with that, so I bought a X61t for its has santa rosa and chipset support SATAII. 

yeah, i was little crazy coz i paid almost $5000 on 2 laptops in a year, for I thought Lenovo would make thinkpad better, like the old way which IBM did. maybe I was wrong.

 

 Anyways, lets not put anger in the post coz MOD may close or delete this thread.

 

 

Well, there is no anger from my side, so I must say this. I don't blame anyone for this issue and I don't want to be angry or threatening with lawsuits or anything. I know that moderators on this board were all doing good job to help people in the past (I was reading this board for a long time before posting on it), and that they help users anytime they can, that's why I'm giving Thinkpads some more time. It's just that Lenovo's official answer simply isn't satisfactory. This answer isn't acceptable for me, and will greatly reduce my trust in Lenovo as company in the future if it stays the same. But because of good past, I'm giving Lenovo some more time from my side to clarify their position on this matter, otherwise I'll go to other brands. If what I say is problematic, well, delete the post and close this thread - it's moderator's choice. Doing so wil not change anything - except alienate some people who were just looking to a solution of their problem. I'll still be acting the same way...

 

I just want one simple answer, either that Lenovo will fix this matter through either BIOS update or by replacing my notebook, or that Lenovo will not fix this because laptops are working as designed (Mark's official statement repeated). If answer will be that this issue is closed and will not be fixed, I'll personaly consider Thinkpads as unable to meet my and my company's demands and simply stop buying their products and sell some of old ones. That's all and I really think that this is fair enough from my side. As I said before and as you said, we bought Thinkpads not because of low price or good offers or any other reason, but because of Thinkpads reputation as one of the best laptops on the market. 

 

Thank you all for reading and best regards,

Klemen

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 13:54 PM

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-26, 14:36 PM

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05-31-2008

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-02-27, 20:27 PM

I assume this topic is done?

Anyways, I think i may consider other brand.

( personally I dont like wide screen). 

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