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01-03-2009

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-03-02, 21:52 PM

I understand why the postings here are so angry. I bought nothing but IBM laptops for 15 years because I could trust them and they performed as advertised. After my experience with the aftermarket SSD I put in my new T61, I am not going to buy Lenovo again.

 

I bought an OCZ drive and they have been nothing but the best in their help to get the most I could out of it. Their latest models perform great, but the SATA limitation of my T61 is  maddening. If that had been clearly listed so that I could have made my buying decision based on good information, it would be another matter.

 

I guess the bottom line is Lenovo is not IBM and that is going to waste the advantages that a huge installed base gave them initially. 

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Re: t61 does not operate at SATA-II speeds?!

2009-03-02, 11:19 AM
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Re: t61 does not operate at SATA-II speeds?!

2009-03-03, 3:14 AM
Hi, ronan_zj, is that an offical fix or just a personal help? "remove whatever chip lenovo put on my board", sounds like this solution could not be DIY, a bit pity :smileysad:. Anyway, hope your friend can make it. I'm eager for the result!
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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-03-06, 13:42 PM

I, too, am very angry & frustrated when I found out about this cap on sata II speed.  First, the limitation of 4gb on memory... now the sata II debacle.  Not what I expected when I decided to shell out almost 2 grand for what was advertised as a power sata II workstation.  I believed Lenovo and Thinkpads were the last front to which users can turn to for dependability... guess it was my mistake.  Was looking to buy future machines from Lenovo - but...

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-03-08, 18:09 PM

I've just spend $800 for a SSD, and wasn't even aware of the issues until after I put the disk in my T61p, and was investigating why it was slow. I am very angry as well.

This will be my last Thinkpad after using them for about 15 years - I certainly won't be recommending them to anyone else either. This SATA2 issue is just plain unacceptable.

I'll miss the Trackpoint when going somewhere else, but thats it - Thinkpads aren't what they used to be in terms of features (hdmi anyone?), and this SATA2 issue is just plain unacceptable.

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-03-08, 18:26 PM

To me it isnt even an issue of specs or not. Did I read the SATA specs 7 months ago when I purchased it? No, I didn't. What I did was purchase a top-of-the-line product from a supposedly top-of-the-line manufactorer, who then turns out to have been cutting corners. That to me is the problem - Lenovo has delivered a "top" product that then turns out to have some unacceptable cost-cutting issues.

This just clearly demonstrates to me how Lenovo is now falling behind its competitors, and thats a killer to me. Can I live with the SATA being limited on the T61p? Sure - its not that big of a real world issue. Can I live with Lenovo making decisions like this, and no longer delivering whats expected for a product of its price? No. Not a chance.

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02-23-2009

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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-03-08, 18:37 PM
@ Havfrue, the specs clearly state SATA 3Gb/s.  It also states that the drive was limited to 1.5Gb/s.  There was no reason to not expect 3Gb/s once once we put in drives that also support 3Gb/s.  You can read up on earlier posts for the details.  So even though you didn't read it, it's there.  Others choose to interpret it differently, but it's there.
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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-03-08, 18:16 PM
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Re: T61 Support SATA II ?

2009-03-10, 20:22 PM
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Re: t61 does not operate at SATA-II speeds?!

2009-03-11, 2:00 AM

Mark (or whomever at Lenovo that this concerns),

 

It has now been almost four weeks since your post explaining the reasons for throttling the SATA speed of the main bay in the Santa Rosa Thinkpads. However, examination of the given explanation showed that it was either incorrect or that it omitted crucial details whose inclusion would have made it logical and consistent (see my previous posts in this thread in regards to the actual questions).

 

While I certainly can understand the reluctance to respond to certain posts in this thread (one of the posters even managed getting himself banned from the thinkpads.com forum because of his behavior), I cannot understand the complete silence on the actual issue itself.

 

The questions I asked you in regards to this issue constitute legitimate technical questions that should easily be answered by a technology company such as Lenovo. By remaining silent instead of responding (whatever the response may be), you are actually starting to prove the detractors of this thread right.

 

I like Thinkpads to much to let the SATA-II issue make me go ballistic (as quite a few posters have gone in this thread). However, if there is no further communication on this issue (whatever that response may be), I assure you that it is not only my confidence in Lenovo that will fall. And that is what should concern you, the long-term loss of confidence in Lenovo by "normal" Thinkpad users with legitimate questions, rather than the guys screaming "Bloody Murder" in this thread.

 

I look forward to your response.

 

Regards,

 

Jorgen 

 

 

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